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Could someone post where in the reference it says that Murray did not read the bill, that the bill was written by the Brady Campaign, or that Murray had sponsored similar bills. The column states Sen. Adam Kline didn't read it well and gives no reference to who wrote the bill or previous similar bills. As I see it, the entire 2nd sentence of that paragraph is unreferenced and should be either sourced or deleted. -- Michael Greiner 02:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
This is categorically false, and a gross representation of both the Senator and the bill itself. For starters, that paragraph states that the purpose of the bill was to allow warrantless searches. The reality is that the bill, Senate Bill 5737 prohibited the manufacturing and selling of assault weapons.
The language involving searches involved a minor controversy in which the bill, which had been proposed in previous sessions, contained the language from an amendment from a similar bill introduced in a previous session. It was obviously not the Senator’s intent to include that language in the version he proposed, which is why that language isn’t in the bill now.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=5737&year=2013
The Senator, a Democrat, is in the minority party. That means for the language to be removed after the bill was dropped, both the leader of the opposing caucus (Rodney Tom) and the Republican-appointed Secretary of the Senate (Hunter Goodman)had to agree that the language was an honest mistake and should be taken out of the bill.
This language was removed before the article referenced in the offending paragraph was published.
Furthermore, the article states that Murray “sponsored identical bills in previous session.” This is extremely misleading, as this was the first assault weapons ban the Senator ever prime sponsored.
The offending paragraph is one of only five paragraphs in the body of the article describing the career of one of the state’s most accomplished politicians. To allow a mischaracterized, single-day incident with no repercussions to be portrayed as a defining career moment is unreasonable at best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.238.208.67 ( talk) 19:43, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
The single sentence is still incorrect. It falsely states that SB 5737 would allow police to conduct warrantless searches in the homes of assault weapon owners. SB 5737 has NO language allowing that. The language was an error made by the Code Revisers' office, which is evidenced by the fact that it has subsequently been removed. When an error is CLEARLY a drafting error and ONLY WITH APPROVAL BY THE SECRETARY OF THE SENATE, the Code Reviser can correct the bill. Secretary of the Senate Hunter Goodman – with Majority Leader Rodney Tom’s consent – agreed to have the bill corrected to Senators Murray, Kline and Kohl-Welle’s original intent. As such, the single statement remains false, and only remains as a political attack on the Senator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.238.208.67 ( talk) 22:17, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
"In February 2013, Murray was a sponsor of a assault weapons ban bill, SB 5737, that as originally written would have allowed police to conduct warrantless searches in the homes of assault weapon owners once per year, with a punishment of up to one year in jail for citizens who did not comply.[6][7]"
:-- Michael Greiner 23:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you, having now read that page, it seems apparent that a "that a neutral editor would agree that your edits improve Wikipedia," given that the page incorrectly described the bill and the process. While the language posted above is more truthful, in the interest of intellectual honesty I would add "This language was immediately removed when the Secretary of the Senate and the leader of the opposition party agreed that the language was a drafting error and not the Senator's intent."
I maintain, however, that this was a minor incident, in the news for less than a week, and unfairly and disproportionately dominates the Wikipedia page of someone who is known for far more consequential events. 198.238.208.67
Here is an article that contains language from other sponsors of the bill explicitly stating that the language in the bill was a drafting error [1]
"Once the error was discovered and shown to CLEARLY have been a drafting error, and with approval by the Secretary of the Senate," Kohl-Welles excused nonetheless, "the Senate Majority Leader, Senator Rodney Tom, agreed to have the bill corrected to the sponsors’ original intent" and "the Code Reviser corrected the bill on Friday."
"In her statement to Examiner Wednesday, Kohl-Welles also blamed "Senate Committee Services staff," saying "they" drafted the measure "using an old version of a bill introduced in previous sessions."
If the section is to be included in the Wikipedia article, the fact that the clause was removed from the bill without a formal admendment and with bipartisan acknowledgement of a drafting error by committee staff must be included. 198.238.208.67
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@ Mtq: this edit, which has been introduced twice, relies on [1] as a WP:RS (it is not) and seems to link to a directory page, rather than a supporting article per WP:V. Therefore, the edit has been removed again. Per WP:BURDEN, this material should not be re-added until/unless paired with a reliable source which supports the associated text. UW Dawgs ( talk) 00:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
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A few days ago, a fourth person (Maurice Jones) publicly accused Ed Murray of molestation. http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fourth-man-accuses-seattle-mayor-ed-murray-of-paying-him-for-sex/ http://www.king5.com/news/local/seattle/fourth-person-accuses-seattle-mayor-of-sex-abuse/436231209 The main article needs to be re-written to describe the various people and their accusations. 2601:1C2:4E01:CE00:4146:2231:C4F1:8E76 ( talk) 04:11, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
The consensus is that the infobox should contain Choice #3, File:Ed murray at torchlight parade 2014 cropped.jpg. Editors noted that the third choice only shows Murray so there are fewer distractions.
Should the infobox contain Choice #1 (the current version), Choice #2, or Choice #3? -- ψλ ● ✉ 20:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
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