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Support. Obvious move. As the nom says, the only other article called "Dust of Angels" besides the movie is the (unreferenced) article on its soundtrack.--
Cúchullaint/
c23:27, 18 December 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment well having added a movie poster, some plot, sourced both articles I'd say leave well alone. Both are notable, both are going to be difficult to find already since the Chinese 少年吔,安啦 has zero connection with the English name.
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20:16, 19 December 2016 (UTC)reply
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Although involved, I see that the whole consensus agreed to merge both pages. --
George Ho (
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There was a previous discussion about merging
Dust of Angels (soundtrack) into this article(
permalink of discussion). However, it seems it didn't attract any input, despite leaving notices at multiple WikiProjects. As such, this RFC seeks to clarify the question,
Merge - Despite concerns about alleged "undue weight", very little sources discuss the soundtrack. Too much emphasis on one song doesn't make the soundtrack independently notable. --
George Ho (
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10:08, 15 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge - The articles are short enough for a merge. And I don't think including the soundtrack in the article of the movie would be undue weight. --
Lemongirl942 (
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09:52, 16 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Do not merge. It is normal for Wikipedia to have standalone articles for soundtracks is the soundtrack has notability beyond that of the movie as this one does (cf. other
1992 soundtracks). Also consider
WP:WEIGHT of the two articles. —
AjaxSmack01:55, 20 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge - Its a brief stub with a track list and barely any sources. Would reconsider stance if/when it's significantly expanded out with content and sources.
Sergecross73msg me02:16, 20 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge, as things currently stand in the two articles. There are plenty of examples where a film and its soundtrack album have separate articles, which I think is entirely correct if the album was and is sufficiently notable in its own right. Grease, Saturday Night Fever, Purple Rain are obvious examples – the soundtracks were hugely successful. But I can't see that that's the situation here (and I'm not gauging notability by commercial success, by any means). From the relatively few film and/or soundtrack articles I've worked on, I'd put Dust of Angels in the "combined" category, like Raga and Everest (1998). Although, with Raga, there is a case for separating the two (given that there are further details to add for the soundtrack), and perhaps this might be true also of Dust of Angels. If we can get a whole lot more description and commentary from reliable sources, then I'd probably be saying don't merge – but does this extra content exist?
JG66 (
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02:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Merge per
JG66. I think his analysis is 100% on point. I think many other soundtrack articles don't merit a separate article. Soundtrack articles really require quite significant independent cultural notability and the accompanying commentary—and, to JG66's main point, inclusion of that commentary on the article page itself. For the time being, it would better suit both articles to be merged. —
BLZ ·
talk19:01, 30 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment: Not sure if this is the place for this, but I think it's kind of related to the merge discussion so I just thought I'd bring it up. If the soundtrack article is merged into this article, then the non-free justification for
File:DustOfAngelsSoundtrackCDCover.jpg will need to be revisited per
MOS:FILM#Soundtrack. Generally, the cover art for soundtracks albums is pretty regularly removed from film articles for the reasons given in
WP:NFC#cite_note-2 and because of
WP:NFCC#8. I'm not saying the the removal is automatic, but it is generally easier to justify non-free use of album cover art when it's being used as the primary means of identification in a stand-alone article about the album itself, then when it's being added to sections of other related articles. Of course, this should not be a reason for not merging the article, but in the past it seems as if similar merges simply resulted in "moving" the content (including the infobox) for the album to a subsection of a film's article without any consideration given to the non-free use of the album cover art. --
Marchjuly (
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02:53, 20 January 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment while I haven't looked into this particular case, I will say that soundtracks in general should only have their own articles when they meet
WP:Notability (music). This means that in addition to having significant coverage requirement from multiple reliable secondary sources, they need to have confirmed titles, track lists, and release dates. Some soundtracks warrant their own articles while others don't. They should be judged on a case-by-case basis and don't have automatic notability.
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17:22, 20 January 2017 (UTC)reply
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