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The Polish word górale does not translate mountaineers. Mountaineers are alpinists, i.e. mountain climbers. The correct translation of górale is highlanders. I corrected the article accordingly. Freederick 18:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I invite other editors opinions on this dilemma, so that consensus may be reached. Freederick 11:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Congrats to authors on this article being mentioned on the en.wiki main page. But, not to forget what I wanted to say: It would be nice, if the article also mentioned, that Dunajec is in fact a border river and that there are also Slovak Gorals riding those boats with tourists. ShapedNoise 21:10, 23 Feb 2007 (UTC)
I wonder, whether "local operators" (instead of "local mountaineers") would be more amiable, even though the more I think about it the stranger it sounds? The tourist guides are unquestionably mountaineers and highlanders at the same time. Theirs, is not an easy profession, with expert knowledge passed on through generations of men. The historical aspect of their craft is of the essence here (as per the opening line on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column).
Following are the two recreational amenities usually spoken of in one sentence all over the Internet: hiking and whitewater rafting. The sources I looked at were mostly North American with no relation to highlanders as an ethnic group. However, all of them were featured under mountaineering. The only thing that worries me is that the Polish meaning of Gorals (or Gorale) is not notable enough in English to be understood without confusion in this loosely connected context of a seasonal profession. Perhaps Gorale should be mentioned under See also, at the bottom of the page. -- Poeticbent talk 23:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
I was invited here because I'm American. Sorry Poeticbent, but I would prefer " Goral highlanders". Your own definition of "mountaineer" mentions mountains but not rivers. "Mountaineer" is simply a form of the word "mountain", as "charioteer" is a form of the word "chariot". You said "hiking and whitewater rafting...all of them were featured under mountaineering." I didn't understand that at all - the mountaineering article doesn't mention rivers or rafting even once. Here's a better link to the Colorado Wilderness Institute example: [2]. It doesn't say that rafting is mountaineering. It says they offer both rafting and mountaineering. The word "mountaineer" makes me think first of "The Mountaineers" in my neighborhood [3]. Click "Courses and Activities" near the top, to see what they do. Mostly they do things in the mountains. They also go in rivers (click "Whitewater Kayaking"), but they also go in Puget Sound, an arm of the Pacific Ocean and surely no mountain (click "Sea Kayaking" and "Sailing"). You will often find these activities together, because whitewater rafting often requires mountains to make the river steep, and someone who enjoys nature will often enjoy mountains, rivers, oceans, deserts etc.
"Highlander" makes me think first of Scottish Highlanders who live in high land, and Gorals apparently do the same. I've never heard of a "mountainard" [4] - Googling the word [5] shows misspellings of Montagnard. "local operator" would be correct, but I don't understand the objection to further identifying the operators as Gorals and highlanders. You are correct that Americans don't know who the Gorals are, but the context of an unfamiliar word qualifying "highlanders" makes it likely that the unfamiliar word refers to an ethnic group, and anyone who wants to read more about the Gorals can click the link. Compare this randomly chosen example from Burundi: "The earliest inhabitants of the area were the Twa...", without first explaining who the Twa are - if you want to know more, click the link. Art LaPella 04:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
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While Dunajec Gorge is shorter, and Dunajec Canyon is also used, Dunajec River Gorge is used by UNESCO: [6]. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)