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The Teen Titans/Outsiders Secret Files & Origins Handbook bring the Brotherhood of Dada at least back in-continuity. The Secret Society of Supervillains are said to be in talks with said group. The implications of this are either that the Brotherhood of Dada existed without the DP (which I find extrememly hard to believe, with Mr. Morden/Mr. Nobody relying heavily on the group and other various plot points) or that Morrison's run on DP, at the very least, existed. The only complicating fact is the appearance of Byrne's DP at the end of OMAC, during the desert battle. Why they did that, I don't know, but it serves to just complicate things. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DoctorWorm7 ( talk • contribs) 03:12, December 9, 2005 (UTC).: Please sign your posts!
I wanted to clarify that Superboy Prime's punching didn't overwrite history; it merely remixed it. Instead of a world where Jason Todd never died, Superboy created a world where Jason Todd died but was replaced by one who had lived. The fact that he died never changed.
However, things do get murky on the Doom Patrol. Nobody seems to remember them, although the effects they had on other people never changed or reversed. And during the Superboy-Prime fight, they regained memories of the adventures they had after the original line-up. So it may not be that those adventures never existed, once the original DP was back, only that no one remembered clearly until the Prime fight. (Beast Boy was having some nagging feelings in Teen Titans). Chris Griswold 15:28, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Much as I love Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol, I'm not sure that this article needs to list every villain the team encountered on his watch. Should this be removed, perhaps to a daughter article? Should there perhaps be a List of Doom Patrol villains, organized by era? I think that would be more in the spirit of WP:FICT than, say, an article on Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 05:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
I just gave the article a once-over, fixing grammar and whatnot and generally (hopefully) making it flow a little better, but I gotta say that it seems like there's a lot of extraenous stuff there, and the whole thing with, what, four or five different team rosters and lists of villains and whatnot just strikes me as confusing. Honestly, I think the article would benefit from a lot of cutting and reorganizing, but I don't quite want to do that without bringing it up here first. What do you guys think? -- Captain Disdain 04:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Ages ago, I was going to try to create separate articles for the members and villains, but never got around to it. I still think it would be a good idea, and would streamline this entry considerably. — Josiah Rowe ( talk • contribs) 17:26, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Coming to this article late, but I’ve got a big question… Is there a factual reference to the statements that the intent of all of the subsequent teams was to catch the spirit of the original? If not the paragraph sounds, in part, like opinion. Should this be flagged, rewritten, or dropped? — J Greb 01:02, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I quote from the article as it is as of this post: "Rounding out the four new members and Cliff were Elongated Man, Doctor Light, and Beast Boy, another former Doom Patroler."
Excuse me, no. Those were the replacements that Jost tried to use when they got the copyright. While I haven't seen Kid Slick, Fever, Flash Forward/Negative Man and (the Indian woman's name escapes me at the moment) used since the title was cancelled, that was the Doom Patrol.
The page for Matthew Cable claims that he was a member of the Doom Patrol. If so, when (what issueS)? -- Scottandrewhutchins 14:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
The article flatly credits Bob Haney as co-creator of the Doom Patrol—in fact, it gives him top billing—which he may very well not truly deserve. Here is the evidence, mostly courtesy of a "Hero History" of the feature, "The Life and Death of the Doom Patrol" in Amazing Heroes #6, November 1981, Zam Inc., (not Fantagraphics!), Stamford, CT, by George Guay, pp.36-54.
Let me stop for a couple of points. Nowhere in the entire article is there an acknowledgement of DC's earlier Robotman character, who was as close to this one as the Flash and Green Lantern of that 1940s era were to Julius Schwartz's then-current characters of the same names and powers. If Drake's memory was a little off and Cliff rather than Larry was Haney's work, that obviously restricts Bob's level of creative imput. There is a similar aspect to Drake's claim of who scripted what in MGA #80. While the story is divided into three chapters, this was not done evenly. The opener, the origin of the team, takes up exactly half of the 24-page story-&-art allotment. The remainder depicted their first battle against recurring villain General Immortus. If Drake's version/memory is accurate this time, Haney's input in the creation of the feature itself is limited. Back to Guay's article, picking up exactly where we left it.
A further fact working against Haney's credit is that on a few occasions, someone would write to the DP book's letter column, asking just who created the feature. The response was invariably Boltinoff, Drake, and regular interior artist Bruno Premiani. No mention of Haney, ever (Murray was probably responsible for those text pages). One thing working in his favor, however, was the Flash/Doom Patrol team-up he wrote for The Brave and the Bold #65, April-May 1966. From the beginning of that feature/format, Haney had a bad habit of ignoring existing continuity for these B&B team-up stories and, worse, making up his own (I can give examples if they are needed, but won't bother right now), but not here. While the Flash could have been any character with the power to move at near light-speed, Bob's fidelity to the Patrol's feature is, for him, mind-boggling; in fact, it reads like the speedster was guesting in their title. Most telling, Haney has Rita mention something here that upon its one and only use in the regular series seemed to have been created as a throw-away excuse for a plot development. In DP #95, May 1965, "The Menace of the Turnabout Heroes," the Chief announced that he had found a possible cure for both her and Larry's conditions as Elasti-Girl and Negative Man. I don't remember the exact details, but it involved playing their respective energies off against each other, and Caulder explained that it was very risky, that it could prove fatal. This led Cliff to ask why Rita, who had simply gained super-powers from her accident, would take that risk. The answer: she was dying from the same thing that had given her those powers (the attempt resulted in the two temporarily having each other's powers, although the presence of the radio-energy being in her body—which sported her silhouette, "figure" and skirt, on emergence!—didn't render her radioactive, and Larry never checked his own level beneath his bandages). Haney's B&B story had Rita mention this terminal condition, and as far as I know, it's never been brought up in any DP story since! But even by Haney's own account here, his name doesn't deserve to come ahead of Drake's in the creator credit. So just how do we work this into the infobox and text? Ted Watson ( talk) 21:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
When asked about whether Robotman had any connection to the Golden Age Robotman, Arnold Drake said no, during the interview that served as the basis for the cited article.
Also, in the first few issues of the series, Clifford Steele was identified as Automaton so that the "Robotman" designation only showed up later. Rhetoricofghostbikes ( talk) 01:48, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
a mention of the merging with one of the x-teams during the Amalgam saga perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.228.98.111 ( talk) 20:49, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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