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Did you know... that the Domino Sugar Refinery was described on completion as the largest sugar refinery in the Americas?
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That's a very good article, nice insight into how the "satanic mills" actually worked. Perhaps it's size and share of national production should be emphasized in the lead; it's amazing that such a share once concentrated in a single plant. About photographs. None of them shows present-day appearance of the historic structure (as seen e.g. on googlemaps); the one in the infobox also shows demolished buildings on the right with the misleading caption "The oldest standing buildings ...". I'd recommend clarifying what's standing and what's gone right in the captions (or, perhaps, add year of each photo?).
Retired electrician (
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22:50, 14 July 2020 (UTC)reply
" it employed up to 4,500 workers at its peak" year?
Added.
So it's a bit of an industrial complex? The infobox has me a little confused, your first two sentences in the lede imply this article is mostly focused on the sugar refinery time, but the infobox focuses almost solely on the development. Not sure what the best way to clear that up is, let me know what you think.
I rephrased it to clarify that it's a current mixed-use development, and former refinery. I added a factory infobox for factories as a supplement to the development infobox.
epicgenius (
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16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
"with much of the commercial enterprises" perhaps "with most of the commercial enterprises"?
Done.
"The first member of the Havemeyer family to open a facility in Williamsburg was John Craig Havemeyer, Frederick Jr.'s nephew. At the end of 1856, John C. Havemeyer" are these the same John's? If not, what year did the former John open a facility? If yes, maybe standardize between Craig, and C. Then again, maybe not.
"According to sketches, the complex included a five-story building" any sketch you could add to the article?
I think it may be still under copyright, since it's from the newspaper article from 1926, and is "undated". I couldn't find an alternative elsewhere.
epicgenius (
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16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
"the world's greatest sugar-refining center " perhaps it's the "world's largest", but imo 'greatest' is much harder to measure
"processed about three-fourths of all refined sugar " WOAH! Since when did we progress from "more than half of the sugar consumed in the entire country"? I would have thought this merited a bit more of a mention
" Insurance money, as well as the sale of assets, helped fund the rebuilding project" perhaps " Insurance money and the sale of assets helped fund the rebuilding project" or " The rebuilding project was funded in part by insurance money and the sale of assets."?
"a large
competitive advantage" I know this might sound redundant, but maybe mention who or why it did. Obviously if you cannot be any more specific than "a large competitive advantage over competitors because it was new", it's not worth specifying.
"rebuilt plant hired 1,000 men who were making 5,000 barrels of sugar daily." I'd suggest either "rebuilt plant had hired 1,000 men who were making 5,000 barrels of sugar daily" or "rebuilt plant hired 1,000 men who made 5,000 barrels of sugar daily." but I'm not particularly great with tenses such as these, so that may be wrong.
"despite antitrust legislation" do you mean further legislation (i.e. the
Clayton Antitrust Act, if memory serves), or antitrust litigation?
I think further legislation (so this is not a typo), but the source doesn't specify. It wouldn't be further lawsuits since that doesn't make sense.
epicgenius (
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16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
"within the Filter House" I believe that it's filter house above. Perhaps standardize? (ditto for the other houses)
"Workers were paid a starting salary of between $1.12 and $1.50 per day, with 5- or 10-cent pay increases according to tenure; the highest-paid workers at the plant earned between $100 and $150 a month" I'd love to see some of the salaries converted into present day terms
" although conditions improved in the early 20th century, when wages were increased and some workers received pensions" the first part suggests conditions for women improved, but the second half sounds like improvements that would benefit all workers...
" In 1917, while the refinery was producing sugar for the Allies" 1) add "during
World War I? 2) why would the Allies need sugar? doesn't really make sense to me
"American Sugar also proposed closing the five short dead-end streets" why?
To expand the plant, since the streets split up the refinery into separate blocks. It would be inconvenient to have public streets across private blocks.
epicgenius (
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16:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)reply
"large rehabilitation of the plant" perhaps it might be better called a renovation?
Done.
Do you have later statistics about share of sugar production?
"The refinery, when rebuilt in 1882–1883, was composed of several structures" personally, I'd prefer "when the refinery was rebuilt in 1882–1883, it was composed of several structures"
Epicgenius, I'll be out of town and away from my computer pretty much this whole weekend, so I likely won't be able to finish up this review until monday-- Hope that's ok. Best,
Eddie891TalkWork13:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)reply
Earwigs suggests no copyvio
Images seem good-- recommend adding dates to the captions as Retired electrician suggests above
Source check
#1 Y
#8 I don't see what it sources here (though I suffer from chronic not-reading-the-whole-page-itis)
#9 is wanting of page numbers
#10 a, b, c, d Y
#15 the url should probably be marked as dead and the citation could use filling out to prove what makes it reliable. also, . By 1870, more than half of the sugar consumed in the entire country was refined there, and by 1870 more than half of the sugar consumed in the entire country was refined here. is too close for comfort
#17 Y
#21 Y
#25 Y
#37 N unreliable source, directly cites Wikipedia in the article
This article is now well written, referenced, comprehensive, neutral, illustrated, free from copyvio, and otherwise meets the GA criteria. Passing. Best,
Eddie891TalkWork00:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)reply
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ALT2:... that the Domino Sugar Refinery(pictured) was described upon its completion as being the largest sugar refinery in the Americas? Source:
Brooklyn Eagle 1883
Hello,
Epicgenius, I have undertaken a review of this article. IMO, ALT2 is the most interesting of the three hooks offered. Your paraphrasing of the archaic language of the 1883 Brooklyn Eagle article is sufficient for verification purposes, with your phrasing carried over properly from the article to the hook. This article has just completed Good Article review, so DYK submission is within the allowable time frame. Length, readable text, copyright issues, and other DYK requirements have been addressed in the recent Good Article review. You are good to go.
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18:46, 23 July 2020 (UTC)reply