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Someone -- preferably not me, as I have very little time of late -- needs to go through and fix all the redirects from the old DISH Network page:
Post a note here if you make some effort toward completing this little project. Thanks. — chris.lawson ( talk) 02:28, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
What if a market lacks a PBS member? How can people in those markets view PBS programming? TitanTV has WNET and PBS-XD in its Dish list, but I don't see them in my EPG, so I'm guessing those are for areas without a PBS member. Could anybody tell me why these are in the list? -- /ɛvɪs/ /tɑːk/ /kɑntɹɪbjuʃ(ə)nz/ 22:56, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
Should the red German TV wikilink really be DW-TV ( Deutsche Welle), for which there is an article? -- GilliamJF 00:52, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Why does the number/year "2000" appear 3 different times (consecutively) with different numbers for each one? -- Nguerrero03 08:28, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
The chart has no tie to reality whatsoever. Dish Network didn't even begin broadcasting until March 1996, it reached 1 million subscribers in December 1997, etc. The current chart is pure fantasy.
I made some major edits this weekend:
1) Moved satellite fleet section to EchoStar Communications Corporation since both listings were different (and wrong) and EchoStar is the entity that operates the fleet.
2) Changed branding to DISH Network. That's how it's spelled, and if you disagree write here.
3) Added lots of verified and corrected tons of technological information and terminology (I own many of them).
4) Moved pictures of dishes around and added SuperDISH 121, and I welcome edits to move the pictures a bit but be CAREFUL they are anchored to each dish type heading.
5) I really think the channel listing should either be removed or put into a tiny table or other page that this page links to.
6) Fixed this broken discussion page.
-- KJRehberg 02:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Yup, it is an old acronym for "Digital Sky Highway" and I sometimes refer to it as "DiSH" instead of "DISH". Thanks for looking into the fact that DISH is really an acronym and is better capitalized. -- KJRehberg 03:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Manual of Style on trademarks says to avoid all-caps in trade names:
— chris.lawson ( talk) 02:20, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
RENAMING IS COMPLETE. —
chris.lawson (
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02:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
Competing companies are entirely relevant. Returned to the article. -- KJRehberg 16:43, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
On CNN and other channels there's been an ad citing DISH Network's drop of Court TV. The ad claims if you're a customer and want the channels back "Take A Stand" and call +1-800-710-1922. If you call that number they play yet more propaganda, and then- tell you to press "1" to find out what you can do. Upon doing so, they offer contact information for the competitor DirecTV and "Your local cable provider." Does anyone happen to know who is paying for this ad aimed at thinning DISH Network's subscriber numbers until they bend on the policy? CaribDigita 21:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Do not post anything unless it is 100% fact and you have a source to back it up.
Removed due to lack of source—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.83.87 ( talk • contribs) 09:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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I've read in some technical forums that DN has yet to broadcast in MPEG4, and instead marks the new HD channels as only compatible with MPEG4 IRDs, while still using MPEG2 for the actual compression, in order to force users to upgrade. Can anyone provide a cite confirming/denying this state of the stream? Alvis 04:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
should we add nhl network on channel 559? GD1223 13:49, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
EchoStar Communications Corporation is now known as DISH Network Corporation. -- KJRehberg ( talk) 17:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
I hear that Dish Network will be adding more HD Channels to the line up should there be a section on the HD Programing and the new HD additions? DaveRapp101 19:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Should there be s story on the voom take down. All 15 went down last week and 22 new channels were added 68.222.73.151 ( talk) 13:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The article contains very subjective opinions in the section where DISH is accused of overcharging residents of PR. To say that someone is overcharging for something is a subjective opinion and inappropriate for an encyclopaedic entry.
I also corrected a number of typos and mispellings that were also introduced by the same author who made the charge of DISH overcharging. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.226.56 ( talk) 23:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
The article has a section about a 'future' upgrade to all mpeg4 programing. I have an old mpeg2 only box, and today I received a letter from dish reading "Due to upgrades in our system's technology and services, it is necessary to upgrade one or more of your older model receivers at no charge to you so you can continue to receive your programming." This would seem to indicate that the mpeg4 upgrade will take place shortly. Sparrowkc ( talk) 00:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
EDIT: Confirmed with a customer service call, Dish Network is upgrading to Mpeg4, and is sending Dish311 receivers to customers who's current boxes do not support the upgrade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparrowkc ( talk • contribs) 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
I made minor edits to combine the problems and controversy sections to a general criticism and controversy section, as inspired by the earlier comment on this page by Asm2750. I made the date of controversy more prominent so that the reader has a better sense of present relevance. I added a header for each topic so that the reader doesn't have to read the whole text to have a sense of what it discussed. The enclosed content was not otherwise changed. RDNewman ( talk) 22:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
I just finished merging in the content of Dish Network Corporation. Having a separate article made sense when Echostar was the parent company, given that it often pursued endeavors that were distinct from Dish Network. For an individual company offering primarily a single service, though, a single article makes the most sense. See, for example, Comcast or think back to Sirius Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio before the merger. (Yes, the same should be done with DirecTV and The DirecTV Group.) user:j (aka justen) 09:23, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
The section about the Gay Television Network is severly outdated, and says 'as of 2005.' Not sure how to correct. 64.53.73.154 ( talk) 23:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Although it is outdated. It still remains an issue, as Dish Network, still to date will not include any gay programing in their line up. I think it is important to mention this point. EditorU.S.A. TI C 17:53, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
A short while ago the camera feed for a satellite showing the earth was added to the channels, 212. --Clark89 ( talk) 19:30, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
The paragraph recently added discussing the deal for exclusive content from CMT at best needs a citation, and at worst doesn't add anything useful to the article and should be scrapped. Maybe the right answer is somewhere in between, but personally, I don't see the value in it. Broadcasters make exclusive content deals all the time. Anyone else have an opinion? UncleverOnion ( talk) 23:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
i just found out that Dish Network is in a carriage dispute with NBC Universal as the contract to carry The Weather Channel on Dish Channel 214 expire at Midnight on May 20, 2010, because of it, Dish is dropping The Weather Channel and replacing it with a new lower budget produced weather network known as The Weather Cast. Dish claims it's because the customers demanded a 24/7 weather work but The Weather Channel's website confirm it was due to a contract dispute.
here's the two links from both sides of the pending carriage dispute:
Dish Network: http://www.dishnetwork.com/weather/
The Weather Channel: http://www.weather.com/tv/programs/CustomerMessage.html
and the story from the Wall Street Journal: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100520-715627.html
this needs to be mentioned on Dish Network's Wikipedia page-- Boutitbenza 69 9 ( talk) 23:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
According to this webpage it isn't Meridian, it's Englewood. Therefore, I'm taking the liberty of changing that entry.
I removed the section called "The HDTV Signal" because it was totally idiotic (sorry, I was not logged in, so my edit does not bear my name, just an IP).
The second paragraph is totally irrelevant, and its correctness is questionable. All it all, this was a pitiful chapter. Mikus ( talk) 03:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Lots of people here on Wikipedia love Local on the 8's and WeatherSTARs, but I don't use Dish Network because here is my motto: no local, no good!" Dish is a evil satellite company. They lied. They made you pay less for the world's worst satellite company. Do not buy Dish, you may like it at first, but then, you will discover how useless it is. Please do not buy dish. It is a matter of life and death, cause if you don't have midland weather radio, how will you hear about weather in your area!!!?!?!?!?!! Think about it. 66.175.172.250 ( talk) 20:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)AlekaJanuary1003.
Dish is thrid largest not fourth read link: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fox-Dish-agree-to-terms-apf-2377289291.html?x=0 Thankyou -- 207.199.226.126 ( talk) 01:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Dish, while currently offering "Free HD For Life" as well as "Local Stations" for customers, usually fails to reveal unless asked that local affiliates signals are not in HD, leaving subscribers frustrated as no timetable for ever adding network TV in HD through local affiliates is ever noted. This doesn't sound neutral to me, all my local channels are in HD. DML —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.240.40.154 ( talk) 17:59, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: already moved back. ⊃° HotCrocodile …… + 03:52, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Dish (satellite TV provider) →
Dish Network – Article was renamed without discussion, cannot find anything to support the new cumbersome article name. The website still uses Dish Network llc. as copyright holder. News releases are (March 02 2012) sent from Dish Network. Colloquially the service/company is called Dish, but as this would be ambiguous the original article name is better.
UnQuébécois (
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01:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
"In January 2012 articles on CNET[6] and Deadline[7] report DISH is being targeted by AT&T for a potential takeover" Ya ok and so what? If they don't take them over does this matter? This lacks notoriety unless it happens. 24.115.19.178 ( talk) 09:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I've noticed multiple sections of what seems to be direct lifts from Dish Network marketing materials and have made a few edits to fix same. DisneyCSIfan seems intent on undoing whatever edits I make without addressing the issue. Could I get a reality check before this escalates? - JeffJonez ( talk) 02:25, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
He/She's Baaaack! (and still edit warring) - JeffJonez ( talk) 12:16, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
I understand removing the information about competition with DirecTV, and the AT&T "potential takeover", but I think it's nessasary to explain the reboot (new website, name, and logo) introduced at CES 2012. -- DisneyCSIfan ( talk) 21:29, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
The Satellite Dish section has been restored. Most of this section was deleted by vandalism and never restored when the vandalism was removed. -- KJRehberg ( talk) 18:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Dish is now using a new 100.4 eastern arc dish with all programming mirrored. This dish needs to be added as well as the new mirrored programming on 61.5, 72, 77 which is all mpeg4
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15:05, 6 April 2012 (UTC).
Due to DirecTV having the section of Receivers, I have added that section to this page. I should have put it on the talk page first, but I forgot. It's here now though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TechPlusTV ( talk • contribs) 05:14, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
A section should probably be started on the Autohop technology, which allows customers to skip commercials and the lawsuit over the technology. More information about the lawsuit can be found at LA Times link 68.205.16.177 ( talk) 04:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
There's a discrepancy between Dish's press release boilerplate on AutoHop and the NYT account. The former says the feature is available at 1AM ET. The latter says two hours after prime time, presumably for all time zones. The latter makes more sense logically, but this might be one of those cases where the primary source is more accurate. I'm not sure. Barte ( talk) 00:49, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
This might work. I found an article (using other databases not available to the average editor) on the feature that hasn't been used as a source and an important claim is made: the commercials are there. We haven't done anything with them. Nothing about when it is possible to delete them, though.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Added Bias tag after reading the section and finding the argument 1 sided in light of the quote made that Fox is "robbing" Dish. Statement should be removed or Fox POV added to give both sides of the issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gohiking ( talk • contribs) 13:04, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
This was discussed in a couple of threads back in 2006, it seems. The "official name", which I'll change in the Infobox, is "DISH Network Corporation". Just wondering whether people would support or balk at a comprehensive change of "Dish" to "DISH". --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me) 01:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
SmartEdits is whitewashing this article as if he were a paid PR person. He has no sources to say DISH is a good place to work, and he repeatedly insists on removing the following section simply because he doesn't agree with it. This is highly inappropriate and deserves very close scrutiny - especially before the professional media gets wind of it. Rklawton ( talk) 15:40, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
In 2012, the investment analysis and commentary site 24/7 Wall St. named Dish Network #1 among "America's Worst Companies To Work For," [1] [2] an assessment based upon employee reviews at the employment website Glassdoor.com.
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I see that an editor has split out all the Criticisms section into a new article at Criticism of Dish Network. That move should possibly be discussed, or reverted, or at least watchlisted. I've added an attribution template to that other article's talkpage, per WP:COPYWITHIN. HTH. – Quiddity ( talk) 22:07, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Just edited a grammar error at the DishNet section-- KF5LLG ( talk) 02:41, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Also, I'd would like to add a new better photo of the DISH HD satelite dish, soon.-- KF5LLG ( talk) 02:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I've heard that Dish is Ku-band, but I'm having a hard time sourcing that (haven't dug too hard, admittedly), but frankly I'm a noob to satellite stuff so I'd love if someone better-versed in this could add such info to the page.
In particular, there seems to be all sorts of FSS and DBS stuff which appear to be separate services run by the same company. Maybe? I can't make heads or tails of it. A clear and cogent explanation of where (in the spectrum and in the sky) Dish programming can be found, would be helpful. Myself248 ( talk) 18:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
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Removed claims that Music Choice and future programming packages will be added, as Dish Network has made no such announcements.
Also, added Oxygen from channel listing since DISH Network does provide this programming and has replaced Lifetime Movie Network on Jan 16, 2006. It does now on Channel 127. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.20.11 ( talk • contribs) 03:16, 25 October 2004 (UTC)
Recently, Dish network has had contract problems with certian channels over the years, I think it would be best to add that to the article. Asm2750 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asm2750~enwiki ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
Dish World IPTV ( http://dishworldiptv.com/) claims to be affiliated with Dish Network. This post on Dish Network's official page on Facebook confirms this fact: < http://www.facebook.com/dishnetwork/posts/10150479055345851>. Should we include a section on Dish World IPTV in the main article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.91.92.173 ( talk • contribs) 18:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Does Dish provide free service to non -profit and or government facilities? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.32.104.138 ( talk • contribs) 19:11, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Dish network is ripping off its customers by taking away programming and not replacing them with channels of equal value and then telling customers if they want to continue to veiwvquality programming they will have to pay more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.0.16.27 ( talk • contribs) 21:44, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
How s the subcriber rate developing over time? Interesting news: - http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/05/01/cord-cutting-dish-network-lost-143000-pay-tv-subscribers-in-1q/
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Hello, my name is Caroline. As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.
For my first request, I wanted to see if editors will consider updating the financials and number of employees in the infobox based on DISH's 2018 Form 10-K report. As currently written, the infobox includes outdated information from the 2017 Form 10-K report. I propose these updates:
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 17:37, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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parameter has not been activated within the supplied reference's citation template. That reference contains over 170 pages. Please provide the specific page number where the financials are shown.Regards, Spintendo 07:48, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, here is a revised request to update the infobox. Per feedback to my last request from
Spintendo, I included the |page=
parameter to show specifically where the financials and number of employees are shown. As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.
I propose these updates to the financials and number of employees in the infobox based on DISH's 2018 Form 10-K report:
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 19:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, here is another request to update the infobox. The |Foundation=
parameter says the original EchoStar was founded in 1981. This is unsourced and incorrect. I propose this update to |Foundation=
:
As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 15:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, here is another request to update the infobox. The |Products=
parameter contains "Mobile phone", which is incorrect for the reason stated below. I propose these updates to the |Products=
:
As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates, and I'll avoid editing the article directly. Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 16:19, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
Spintendo 23:29, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, here is a request to improve the first paragraph of the "Founding and early growth" section, which currently repeats a detail from the "History" section and misspells Jim DeFranco's name.
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My primary goal is to correct "Defranco" to "DeFranco" and remove the redundant detail, and I understand editors will decide to accept or reject these changes. Also, here is another source confirming Candy Ergen and Jim DeFranco as co-founders of EchoStar. |
Thanks! CK-DISH ( talk) 22:38, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Edit request implemented
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Hello, Dish México was
added back to the |Subsidiaries=
parameter in the infobox. This is incorrect. Dish México is not a subsidiary of DISH. Rather, it's a joint venture with Echostar. DISH Network Corporation has nothing to do with Dish Mexico. While Echostar and DISH Network share a chairman in Charlie Ergen, they are not one in the same. Can editors remove Dish México from the infobox?
As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 16:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
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User:Spintendo, thank you for granting permission, but I am an employee of DISH and I very much prefer not to edit the article directly because of my conflict of interest. I am resubmitting my request for you or another editor to update the article on my behalf. Thank you! CK-DISH ( talk) 16:30, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
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|Subsidiaries=
parameter in the infobox. Thanks!
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00:12, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
"The only thing these two companies share is a chairman in Charlie Ergen."It's not entirely clear from the source you've provided that the companies really are that separate. They may trade differently stockwise, but their joint venture leaves a lot left to share — satellite access, investment monies, and even a chairman. In any event, the issue as an edit request is moot. When I first deleted this entry, it was immediately replaced back in the article. Thus, the change is by definition controversial, meaning the use of the
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@ Usedtobecool: Thank you for correcting the article. I will keep an eye on the page to see if the error is added back. In the meantime, I've submitted another request below to combine two very short sections, if you're willing to take a look. Thanks again! CK-DISH ( talk) 19:34, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hello again! I'd like editors to take a closer look at the Hearst Television section. At minimum, I would suggest removing , at midnight, ET and , at 7:00 p.m. ET as unnecessary details. I could see the dates being important, but not the exact times. However, I should note, the entire section is unsourced and there's a section specifically about Hearst Television over at the Criticism of Dish Network article. Are editors open to moving this content on the Dish Network page over to the Criticism of Dish Network page, or at least whichever details they feel are worth keeping? I should note, there is already text about the March and April 2017 actions on the criticism page, so this text is kind of redundant. As a reminder, I am submitting this request on behalf of my employer DISH. Thanks for any feedback or changes on my behalf. CK-DISH ( talk) 17:51, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hello again! I've been suggesting some article improvements on behalf of DISH. I propose combining the Tailgater and Wally subsections and using the header "Tailgater and Wally". Currently, the Tailgater section mentions Wally, and the Wally section has just one unsourced sentence. There is no need for a separate subsection about Wally. If editors agree, can someone update the page for me? Thanks! CK-DISH ( talk) 19:34, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hello again! Currently, the "Voom" section has a typo, in the fourth paragraph (starting with "According to Sanford C. Bernstein"). Can someone please change "cases involving spoilation" to "cases involving spoliation". You'll see "spoliation" used twice later in the section. I realize this is an easy fix but I'm not editing the page myself because I work for DISH. Thanks for making this change on my behalf. CK-DISH ( talk) 22:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd like to submit a request to update the infobox with 2019 financial information, per the company's Form 10-K.
Per feedback to my last request from
Spintendo, I included the |page=
parameter to show specifically where the financials and number of employees are shown.
As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review. I propose these updates to the financials and number of employees in the infobox:
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 18:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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Edit request partially implemented
Regards, Spintendo 18:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Hello again! I've been looking at this article and related articles, and realized a significant portion of the "Criticism and controversies" content is redundant to text at Criticism of Dish Network. For example, you'll see repeated info at Dish_Network#AutoHop and Criticism_of_Dish_Network#AutoHop, Dish_Network#Telemarketing_violations and Criticism_of_Dish_Network#Telemarketing_violations, etc.
Previously, I've been asked to reach out to the editor who added content to discuss possible changes, but in this case I cannot do so. I dug around in the article history and discovered that much of the existing content was added by User:Lesbianadvocate, an editor who "has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser evidence confirms that the operator has abusively used multiple accounts", between December 2015 and March 2016.
I realize this is a big ask, especially coming from an editor with a conflict of interest, but might someone be willing to help trim down some of this redundant information? I'd be happy to identify some additional specific instances of redundancy. Thanks in advance for any help or feedback. CK-DISH ( talk) 19:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
@ Kvng and Wugapodes: Hello again to you both. I'm open to working on the Criticisms article's introduction, but I also understand Kvng's comment about having a company representative drafting new text. I was hoping an editor would be willing to take on trimming redundancies, but since this is such a big ask, perhaps I can identify specific problems for easier review? I'd like to start with Dish_Network#Telemarketing_violations and Dish_Network#Hidden_fees.
These two sections are redundant to Criticism_of_Dish_Network#Telemarketing_violations and Criticism_of_Dish_Network#Fee_disclosures. The telemarketing violations sections are the exact same, except the DISH company article has the additional sentence, "In 2017 DISH Network was fined $280 million by the FTC for Do Not Call Registry violations." If editors believe this sentence should be kept, can this be moved over to the Criticisms page, and the rest of the section here can be removed? Similarly, the fees sections are almost identical, except the company article has the additional sentence, "As of June 6, 2017, the shipping cost is now $12."
To clarify, I propose removing the Dish_Network#Telemarketing_violations and Dish_Network#Hidden_fees sections of this article because they are nearly identical to the content at the Criticism page, and I will let editors decide if the Do Not Call Registry sentence is worth keeping/moving.
I hope this is a reasonable first request for trimming duplicate content. Thanks. CK-DISH ( talk) 20:59, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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Thanks again for your help, Spintendo. On page 31 of the same document, I see the text "We had approximately 16,000 employees at December 31, 2019, most of whom were located in the United States." Are you able to update the source and change (2018) to (2019) in the infobox's employee field?
Also, in the Dish_Network#Broadcast_technology section, the last paragraph seems unnecessary and the text is unsourced. Do you mind removing, "Both a standard receiver and a DVR (digital video recorder) are available to subscribers for an upgrade fee. Beginning in January 2010, DISH Network charges $7.00 as a DVR service fee, which covers cost of licensing EPG (electronic program guide) listings from Rovi Corporation, with the TV Guide logo displayed on listings screens to signify the partnership."? Thanks! CK-DISH ( talk) 20:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Regards, Spintendo 00:46, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
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I would like to submit another request on behalf of DISH. Currently the article uses the phrase "ethnic programming" twice. Programming is international, not ethnic. Would an editor mind changing both uses from "ethnic programming" to "international programming"? Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 16:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Edit request implemented
Spintendo
19:50, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, here is a request to add a subsection to "Services and devices" about DISH's wireless business. As a result of the T-Mobile/Sprint merger, which was approved by a federal judge on February 11, 2020, DISH will become the 4th major wireless carrier in the U.S. My proposed addition cites The New York Times and Fierce Wireless.
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As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates, and I'll avoid editing the article directly. Thanks! CK-DISH ( talk) 16:11, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hello! Currently this article displays 5 logos (the current in the infobox plus 4 former ones below). I've created a gallery displaying all the same information and sources for the 4 former logos here:
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If editors agree this is a better way to display the 4 former logos, can someone update the article on my behalf?
Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 16:34, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi again! Currently the infobox mentions OnTech Smart Services, but the main article text does not. I've proposed a very basic and neutral description per CNET, if editors find this addition helpful:
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Thank you! CK-DISH ( talk) 17:06, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hello again! I'd like to propose another addition to this article. Currently, the page describes controversies and criticisms, but does not acknowledge any of the company's corporate citizenship initiatives. DISH has partnered with multiple organizations, completed numerous community projects, and assisted with disaster relief efforts. I've drafted a brief and neutral overview of this work based on journalistic coverage for consideration:
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Again, DISH Cares has done a lot more, but I'm hoping this summary is helpful for bringing some balance to the article. Will an editor please review the text and update the page on my behalf? Thanks! CK-DISH ( talk) 18:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for helping above, User:Spintendo.
I'd like to submit another request on behalf of DISH. Currently the "higher capacity satellite dishes" section has some unsourced and unnecessarily detailed information about web support forums and supposed customer comments. I propose removing the following text, which is the second half of the first paragraph:
Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 23:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for replying, User:Spintendo. In addition to being unsourced, I was seeking to remove the aforementioned content as unnecessary detail (support forums, customer comments, etc). I was planning to submit additional edit requests to remove other chunks of unsourced content. I was trying to keep the requests smaller and easier for editors to review, but I am fine with you and other editors removing unsourced text throughout the article in an attempt to improve the page overall. Are you willing to help remove the unsourced text? Thank you.
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16:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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Thank you for helping above, User:Spintendo. Currently the "founding and early growth" section has some unsourced and unnecessarily detailed information. I propose removing the following text:
Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 17:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Currently the "Broadcast technology" section has some unsourced and unnecessarily detailed information. I propose removing the following text:
Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 16:59, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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Currently the "Technical information" section has some unsourced and unnecessarily detailed information. I propose removing the following text:
Again, I propose removing this text because WP:UNSOURCED says "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution."
Thank you. CK-DISH ( talk) 17:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Much of the data is not organized very well. For instance, I see where the article talks about hoppers and Joey’s, then says that HBO is not available (Which as of last month, it’s been back) and then jumps back to Sling…. It just is odd to me Gumby-andrit ( talk) 02:49, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, here is another request to update the infobox. The |Subsidiaries=
parameter contains several inaccuracies. I propose these updates to the |Subsidiaries=
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As an employee of DISH, I am here to suggest improvements and updates to this article. I'll avoid editing the article directly and will disclose my conflict of interest openly when submitting requests for editors to review.
Thanks!
CK-DISH ( talk) 17:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Spintendo 20:13, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
I believe these sections need added back in now, as Dish now owns these subsidiaries. Gumby-andrit ( talk) 02:54, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I would like to add an external link to this Wiki article. Similar to an existing external link at the bottom of the article (to access a Dish Network channel lineup via tvchannellists.com), the proposed one leads to a more up-to-date/complete version of the guide that is printer-friendly and color coded by TV station genre. This guide is free for users to download from the website. The intent is to help folks see a more organized national Dish channel lineup in hardcopy.
Proposed Link to add: Print-Friendly DISH Network Channel Guide
Sincerely,
-- GebienD ( talk) 03:59, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
Addendum re: Revised External Link — After countless hours spent over the past week shaping this DISH Network channel list into a high quality, accurate (triple cross-referenced) and up-to-date informational source, I'm proud to finally share it in HTML format (without the need for website visitors to register). Please note it is a channel list per se as opposed to a full guide (with corresponding channel numbers). I'm hoping the list is sufficient. Thank you in advance! GebienD ( talk) 07:31, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
I follow your logic and have now added the channel numbers in an alphabetically arranged list. It's print friendly and can easily be copied/pasted. Please see the new link and advise? User:WhatamIdoing —— GebienD ( talk) 03:36, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello @ PeakWildFlower:, I took out the ref you added. This is because it is to a press release from DISH and so is a primary source. The references need to be to sources such as newspapers, magazines, academic proceedings where the information has been checked. The Bitcoin Cash development is reported in the ZDNet article at the end of the paragraph. GreyStar456 ( talk) 23:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)