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Hello all. So, there are a lot of conflicting sources for DL's hubs/focus cities and the blur between the the two has gotten kind of murky. Currently, we are listing the following:
Hubs:
Focus cities:
According to the most recent DL publications, here is the breakdown ( http://s1.q4cdn.com/231238688/files/doc_presentations/2017/Delta-Air-Lines-Investor-Day_2017.pdf):
Hubs:
Focus cities:
According to DL's "press paragraph", the breakdown is ( http://news.delta.com/corporate-stats-and-facts):
Hubs:
I also want to caution that we may be relying to heavily on WP:PRIMARY sources, perhaps using secondary sources will help clarify the issue. I have distinguished secondary sources from the primary ones below.
Here is a compilation of all the sources I have seen used, feel free to add to the list:
These are alliance hubs, not airline carrier hubs. 2601:582:4105:60F4:11F5:2B13:920B:D5D4 ( talk) 00:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
In my opinion, per WP:PRIMARY, while the large hubs can be adequately sourced from DL's material, I think we need to use WP:SECONDARY to declare the hubs/focus cities DL leaves ambiguous. These include CVG/BOS/RDU/MCO/etc. Based on the secondary sources, I think we should list it as: ATL/BOS/CVG/DTW/MSP/JFK/LGA/SLC/LAX, Focus Cities: RDU/MCO. Stinger20 ( talk) 02:27, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't think any overseas airports (LHR,CDG,AMS,NRT) should be listed as hubs. They are transfer or alliance hubs and don't meet the definition of a hub that we tend to use here in my opinion. As for everything else, I agree that we should be relying on secondary sources where the primary Delta sources leave it ambiguous. Garretka ( talk) 00:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
This is all very confusing to say the least. Delta does not make it clear one way or another. Size wize, CVG, BOS and RDU are more along the lines of focus cities, but Delta's website has contradicting information. If it were up to me, I'd list them as focus cities for now, but I'll leave it alone until something more formal comes out. I do agree we should deslist the foreign hubs (LHR, CDG, AMS and NRT), as those really don't count. NBA2030 ( talk) 01:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I think we ought to go ahead and remove the foreign hubs, since they don't really classify as hubs in the traditional sense. The rest we can leave for now. NBA2030 ( talk) 00:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Should we really be listing Austin, Nashville and San Jose as focus cities? They are not on the same level as Cincinnati and Raleigh-Durham and I believe Delta was referring to them as a "focus" in growth, not as a focus city in the classic definition. Blissfield101 ( talk) 01:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
I was checking out the Delta site for a ATL-DET flight. In addition to a direct flight, connections through three cities were offered: BNA, CVG, and RDU. I believe connecting flights would fit the definition of a focus city. Thoughts? CommunityFlow ( talk) 14:22, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
I believe one of delta’s focus cities is at Portland, they have a flight from salt lake come on a 737-800 then a 767 continues on to Tokyo's Narita airport. I think this warrants at least focus city. It is also launched many flights to is hubs such as LAX or SLC and I think they are trying to compete with Alaska Airlines there as well. This would probably make PDX a focus city for delta. Lufthansa122 ( talk) 16:54, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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In March unknown flight number a man had a hart attach and the flight frm Bavier to Atlanta safely landed in Jax to be toersom out. 2600:8803:5B00:C4C:2C46:FC3A:DB82:98CC ( talk) 00:44, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
August 23, 1995: There is a misspelled word in the narrative. Seperation is misspelled, change to separation. Of course I would have changed that error myself but this is a locked page. Also in uninjured column of table, change 236 to All, to keep in format with the rest of the table. Thank you. 2601:581:8402:1EE0:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 ( talk) 21:29, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
This company was a subsidiary and currently, it doesn't have enough encyclopedic write up which may help it it sustain an independent page. Hatchens ( talk) 15:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
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Accidents and incidents, 10/19/1996, description, where it says right-wing. Remove dash in between words, should be right wing. Thank you. 2601:581:8402:1EE0:FD80:78A2:FA58:D25D ( talk) 17:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC) 2601:581:8402:1EE0:FD80:78A2:FA58:D25D ( talk) 17:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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Delta Air Lines Accidents and Incidents Aircraft minor grammar corrections
Thank you for your time. 2601:581:8402:1EE0:FD80:78A2:FA58:D25D ( talk) 12:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC) 2601:581:8402:1EE0:FD80:78A2:FA58:D25D ( talk) 12:08, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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Delta Air Lines Accidents and Incidents wikilink aircraft in table
Hello. In Delta Air Lines Accidents and incidents table, want changes in Aircraft column so all go to redirected wiki pages;
Thank you for your help and have a good day. 2601:581:8402:1EE0:DD27:2A5A:EE4A:86E2 ( talk) 15:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC) 2601:581:8402:1EE0:DD27:2A5A:EE4A:86E2 ( talk) 15:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
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Add the 2019 financial figures to the "Financial information for Delta, by year" table for the fiscal year ending 2019.
Figures to add: Revenue = $47,007 (reference page 27) Net income = $4,767 (reference page 27) Total assets = $64,532 (reference page 27) Price per share = ? (see below) Employees = 91,000 (reference page 11)
Question on price per share: what is the criteria for this? Price at market close on Dec 31, 2019? Average price for the year 2019? Something else?
Source: SEC 10-K filling. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0000027904/000002790420000004/dal-20191231.htm#i_0_91 Yotzt ( talk) 21:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, colleagues, the wrangling over fleet size figures has got to stop. You (we) can't complain about Planespotters being an inadequate source here, then move the reference citation out of the infobox per WP:INFOBOXREF here, and then completely remove the cite ref here, all the while (before, during and after) entering apparently arbitrary (because unsourced) values in one or the other (almost never both) of the locations in the article.
I have no idea where the 763, 777, 775, 779, 808 numbers come from. Oh, wait! Yes, I do, the last changes, with the edit summary "Planespotter.com is not WP:RS", changed the fleet size to 808, as at planespotters, but completely removed the ref. I am going to reinstate the ref "Planespotters-Delta", including the "Better source needed" template, and hope that somebody can either provide a better source, stop changing the fleet size to unsourced values, or both.
Otherwise, we will have to go with 722 and the phrase "As of August 2015", because that's what the remaining ref citation gives us. — JohnFromPinckney ( talk) 19:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello! As you edit the fleet size. Please use the calculator and add all in service of Delta Air Lines fleets. If you have any concern, please add the discussion of User talk:Marc Lacoste thank you! Corner2002 ( talk) 13:36, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello and good day. Go to Flight 2231 in accidents and incidents section. Flight 2231 incident should be deleted from list. Not worthy of mentioning. Aircraft slide off runways on occasion in icy weather. Thank you and have a good day. 2601:581:8402:6620:304C:CD3D:3958:6A95 ( talk) 22:29, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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Under the entire heading of ===Hubs===, add the following:
On March 10, 2021, Delta CEO Glen Hauenstein, announced the airline would drop Cincinnatti, Nashville, and San Jose as focus cities. [1]
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On Wednesday a 757 delta got a bird strike and suffered extensive damage, i dont know the tail number Or The Flight number but maybe A Article could be made. Hurricanestudier123 ( talk) 19:32, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Should we add a section about this? It seems notable (covered in some news articles). Hkbusfan ( talk) 12:29, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
Noticed the hidden note in the infobox. Per a Delta Executive, Austin and Raleigh/Durham are the two focus cities that will remain post-pandemic. The comments are well supported by secondary sources:
I’m going to be bold and add Austin… if anyone disagrees feel free to revert and discuss here. RickyCourtney ( talk) 15:26, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
Initially, it was added on here in May, but many opted to not include Austin as they had no point-to-point services at the time of the announcement. I have no issue with it being on the page but others might Bentheswimmer11 ( talk) 22:49, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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Delta has codeshare with LATAM that needs to be included under destinations and hubs
The subsidaries section at the top needs to include Grupo Aeroméxico which they own 49% in ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupo_Aerom%C3%A9xico) 2600:8802:5102:CA00:ACD4:A530:A56F:9A17 ( talk) 08:14, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
The Flight 2231 incident in Accidents and Incidents should be deleted. Not noteworty as aircraft slide off runways from time to time with no serious injuries from time to time in winter months. Was deleted February 28, 2021 but put back again. Thank you. Theairportman33531 ( talk) 04:52, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
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For lounges Austin, Texas is labeled as a focus city it is not a focus city for Delta. Editorforairport ( talk) 13:51, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi Delta Air Lines,
Good everyone, I saw a check on the internet for Delta Air Lines fleet list for the information.
I think it's Latam group will get some of the Airbus A350-1000 4 series transfer to Delta Air Lines later this year? A350-1000 long haul is 10,004 miles very awesome and also just wants to travel to Europe, Asia, Oceania, Middle East, and Africa and one more non-stop direction from Atlanta to Johannesburg, South Africa that is good absolutely.
Boeing 777-300ER or 777X choice:
Well, it was a too very long time last delay the last buy product for Boeing 777-300ER (10) series order will be instead both Boeing 777-200ER and LR, too, or Boeing 777-8X or 9X the same everything for this attraction can in the future and I think so?
Boeing 787’s required?
Delta because it canceled its order from Boeing 787-8 last in December 2016 why? Maybe again when Boeing 787-8, 9, and 10 families travel to Asia, Europe, Oceania, Africa, and the Middle East for Delta Air Lines it will be able instead of Airbus A330-200, and Boeing 767-300ER during hubs at Atlanta Airport and they are agreeing able?
I am a deaf in Seattle only. I would like it Delta Air Lines guess hub in Seattle, too.
Have a good day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmaryahJohnson1996 ( talk • contribs) 19:54, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello,
Could someone add
Pegasus Airlines
[1] to the Codeshare Partners Section?
Thank you, — Preceding
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Request that them losing a lawsuit by one of their pilots, after they were found to have paid a doctor to create a false bipolar disorder (and thus prevent the pilot from flying) after that pilot raised a safety concerns be added to the controversy section. Articles found all over the web including CNN, CNBC, etc. Can post specific links if people would like. 136.57.139.16 ( talk) 20:33, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
Fleet size should be changed from 877 to 910 Sfrinkygnaziorazio ( talk) 12:48, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Does anyone know if this is true? Someone keeps adding it here [1]. Jz0610 ( talk) 16:21, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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Factual errors ... example: Boston is Delta's secondary Transatlantic gateway. The fact is that JFK and ATL are essentially co-primary Transatlantic gateways, and Boston is on par with Detroit.
Suggested change: include "primary Transatlantic gateway" in Atlanta hub description; change Boston description to "one of Delta's secondary Transatlantic gateways"; add to Detroit description "one of Delta's secondary Transatlantic gateways". ATL Monkey ( talk) 13:35, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Unifi, formerly DGS, is 49% owned by Delta and should appear in the subsidiaries 79.16.147.251 ( talk) 18:25, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Now that Austin is getting Point-To-Point services, shouldn’t it now be on the list? I recall the previous discussion on this where someone else stated that AUS should not be listed until they have point-to-point service, which they now do to RDU, CVG, MCO, and LAS. Bentheswimmer11 ( talk) 06:41, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
As of June 12, 2023, Mike Spanos is the COO of Delta Air Lines
https://news.delta.com/mike-spanos-join-delta-chief-operating-officer Loufrankel ( talk) 21:16, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The incident at SLC Airport on 1/1/2024 should be possibly deleted in the future. We should do so after the autopsy, he could have died because of other factors, i.e. exposure to cold or other reasons, he was found intact in the engine nacelle and not mutilated in any way. Lets see what the autopsy reveals and see if we can come to a consensus. Theairportman33531 ( talk) 12:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
On January 20, 2024, Delta Flight 982, a Boeing 757-200 bound for the El Dorado International Airport in Bogotá, Colombia lost its nose wheel while taxiing to the runway to depart from the Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport in Atlanta, Georgia. All passengers and their bags left the aircraft unharmed and were transferred to another gate, where they boarded another flight which made it to Bogotá safely. 71.251.5.246 ( talk) 13:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
From Chicago Tribune on March 15, 1998, At Portland Jetport in Portland, Maine, A Delta Air Lines skidded off the runway. "It was landing during a snowstorm and couldn't stop in time," Delta spokeswoman Katie Moussouri. It was a MD-88, Flight 2148 with 152 uninjured Passengers including crew members. Before the MD-88 landed, there was an inch or two of snow with slight ice. FMC022 ( talk) 03:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)