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Should this article be called Deep Foundations instead of Pile? -- Tom Bonnie 22:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, was sent here by a link for the word "pile", thought "pile" was the term at hand. Fixed it by reversing the nicely formulated definition of "shallow foundation". Now we have it all. Sorry again for the previous rush change. Arminden ( talk) 08:04, 14 July 2015 (UTC)Arminden
It seems to me that the sheet piling, soldier pile, and pile wall sections would be more appropriate in the article retaining wall. These things seem to be more of an application of previously discussed pile types rather than a pile type itself. Basar 05:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
I've been working on some other articles in this area and believe that piling is a construction technique that is common across multiple construction applications -- not just deep foundations -- and so should be split off into its own article and referenced here. Besides deep foundations, piles can also be used in:
Everyone OK if I split Piling off to it's own article? If so, should it be called Pile or Piling? Should Pile Wall also be a separate article as well?
ReedConstruction 14:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested in incorporating reference to a 19th century patent taken out by John Dolbeer for an apparatus for "steaming piles". Rather than a drastic treatment for a medical condition (sorry, my British sense of humour...) this appears to be a means of treating timber piles against insect infestation, in situ. (The external link to the patent text is in his article.)
Incidentally, I generally concur with the comments above regarding article split, etc. This should become a master article with numerous sub-articles, splitting-off large sections whenever large enough. I needed a link for a timber pile (hence the comment made above) and had to use Deep foundation#Timber, which is not intuitive. This is way off my usual subject areas, but to me a 'pile', in this context, is a physical 'thing' -- in the case of a timber pile, it's simply a dirty-great long bit of wood, which only becomes a "deep foundation" once it's actually pushed into the ground and is used to support something: before that it is still a 'pile', so we should be able to link to it as such.
EdJogg ( talk) 08:37, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this trying to say "...and filling it with mass concrete or reinforced concrete."? Paulburnett ( talk) 19:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
There are quite a number of Wikipedia articles that refer to "monopile foundation" -- especially related to near-shore, fixed-bottom wind turbines -- but I can't seem to find any WP article (e.g., monopile, or monopile foundation, as of October 2009, both come up as red links) that describes a monopile foundation. Might it be possible for someone who is a geotechnical engineer expert to add a few words or a section to either this article (or Foundation (engineering) if that would be better) in order to describe what one is and how they work? I see there are a lot of Google hits but an expert could probably best summarize the important ideas for a paragraph in the appropriate WP article on underwater geotechnical engineering, or Deep foundation, or Foundation (engineering). N2e ( talk) 21:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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Could a knowledgeable editor add to the intro to this article a sentence about typical usage? The photos all show bridges or large buildings (thus implying that's the main usage), but is this type of foundation ever used for, say, a typical suburban single-family home? Comet Tuttle ( talk) 22:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
There is a decent source of present and future foundation designs for subsea applications, especially offshore wind turbine applications, here: http://offshorewind.net/Other_Pages/Turbine-Foundations.html Many of the images are reportedly from the US Government agency NREL, which should make them freely usable on Wikipedia. Is someone reading this Wikipedia-image-savvy and could possible obtain these images from the US government and put them up on Wikipedia? I've added a reqimage tag. N2e ( talk) 19:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Monopile foundation is listed as a subsection of the section Driven foundations. This is incorrect. Large diameter monopile foundations may be driven, or rather a part of the case may be driven, but they need not be. A monopile foundation is still a monopile when no driving is utilized.
However, given the current section organization of the article, I'm not sure where to put monopile foundation without reworking the section headings. So for now, will just note it is erroneously placed. N2e ( talk) 01:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
A deep foundation is a type of foundation distinguished from shallow foundations by the depth they are embedded into the ground.
This is probably not the best foundation on which to begin our lead. It feels laughably redudant, and might be improved with some combination of rewording, examples, and/or some sort of indication of "how deep is deep and not shallow?" I'm not an expert on the subject, so I'll leave this to more knowledgeable hands. -- j⚛e decker talk 20:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
The lede sentence as of 13 July 2015 reads: "A pile is a vertical structural element of a deep foundation, driven deep into the ground at the building site."
Sounds okay as far as definitions go, but it does seem to have a scope that is rather different than the article title.
Is this an article about piles? or "deep foundations"? Are all piles a part of a deep foundation? Are all deep foundations constructed exclusively of elements called piles? Should we be starting the lede sentence of an article about "deep foundations" with a definiition of piles rather than of deep foundation? Is it possible to make a deep foundation that does not have piles? ... or are piles required, and and the only way to ever get a deep foundation?
I don't know enough about this aspect of civil engineering to know, but I think we owe it to our Wikipedia reader to make the lede clear, and help answer the big question of describing that which the article title says is going to be described.
Is the article title the wrong one? Should this, in fact, be an article called piles? Cheers. N2e ( talk) 17:04, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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