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The following is a closed discussion of a
requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a
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– Per
WP:NCDAB, I think this is a case in which all the articles listed on a disambiguation page can use natural disambiguation rather than parenthetical disambiguation to distinguish them.
David Hoffman (jurist) is the only article linked from the
David Hoffman disambiguation page with a parenthetically disambiguated title. All the other article titles use middle names or initials that naturally disambiguate them from
David Hoffman (jurist). If this move request is approved, I think each article currently linked from the disambiguation page should include a
Wikipedia:Hatnote to
David Hoffman (disambiguation).
Dugan Murphy (
talk)
22:26, 14 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose since several of them are sometimes known as just "David Hoffman", although I have put hatnote on the rest of the pages back to the DAB.--
Ortizesp (
talk)
00:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Ortizesp. There are eight men listed upon the
David Hoffman disambiguation page with no indication that the thirteen-sentence entry for the American jurist from two hundred years ago delineates a scholar so celebrated throughout the English-speaking world and beyond that his notability exceeds the combined renown of the other seven men. As for addition of
hatnotes atop entries for the other men named "David Hoffman" — such hatnotes are unnecessary per
WP:NAMB. According to
WP:NAMB, hatnotes should only be added if there is a possibility of confusion — in this case, there is no such possibility. Anyone who types "
David Hoffman" will arrive at the
David Hoffman disambiguation page where any uncertainty will be sorted out. Addition of unnecessary hatnotes only creates clutter. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs)02:13, 15 May 2021 (UTC)reply
Question So what I'm hearing is that, even though
David Hoffman (jurist) is the only person listed on the disambiguation page without a middle name or middle initial, that approval of this move request is nevertheless contingent upon the jurist being the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC amongst all the articles listed on the disambiguation page? If so, then I don't support my own nomination because the jurist is clearly not the primary topic. I made this nomination because the move seemed natural to me since it appeared that we don't actually have multiple articles competing for the title "David Hoffman", so I didn't think this move request involved a discussion of primary topic status. But I hear what
Ortizesp is saying that "several of them are sometimes known as just 'David Hoffman'", in which case perhaps one or more of these articles would use "David Hoffman" were it not for the other articles. I would appreciate if someone can confirm so I can better understand. This is my second move request.
Dugan Murphy (
talk)
23:20, 15 May 2021 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.