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I'll try and address the issues user:Gingrichrook has raised regarding Brock's role in Hawkwind:
As far as chief writer and arranger goes ,thats crazy,thats your opinion,not a fact.Who wrote Master of the Universe ,Brainstorm,Sonic Attack,Realms ,Wings, Robot ,Silver Machine,Dying seas,Motorhead,Dreamworker,Dangerous Vision,Waiting for Tomorrow,Moonglum,Ejection,D-Rider,Tv Suicide,Lost Johnny,Watcher, and on and on. He is not and never has been the chief song writer. He is one of the writers. Who was Bob Calvert? Who was Nik Turner? Who was Alan Davey ? Who was Lemmy? How many songs on DOREMI ,Space Ritual ,Warrior ,PXR5 , etc.,did he write BY HIMSELF?.......And as far as the lead singer goes thats your opinion not fact.Ever hear of Nik Turner,Ron Tree,Bob Calvert,Capt Riz,Bridgette Wishart,Alan Davey,LEMMY,etc. Lead singer on what,who sang lead on the biggest Hawkwind songs ,Silver Machine,Brainstorm,Master of the Universe,Watcher,Realms ,Lost Johnny,Spirit of the Age,Quark,Pxr5,Death Trap,and on and on ? Wasn't Brock was it. What about leads on albums Space Bandits,Quark,Palace Springs, ,pxr5,astounding sounds,Alien ,etc. Why so biased against all other members? ..... And as far as Klute goes did you bring up all the Hawkfans who were messing with his file? Are you sure you want to talk about non payment of royalties or not getting prior permission for releases in the bios ? Do you want me to fill the bios with quotes with POV's on Hawk members royalties not paid from all the books like the other hawkfans do to Klute? Do we really want to read that sorry story again here after those two books made them look so bad? I mean Hawk fans talking about someone not paying royalties on that little item from 2004 is kind of silly isn't it ,considering the Voiceprint,Space Ritual 2 ,Yuri ,Hawkstra, Magma ,etc.,situations. I came on to read about the wonderful songs,the tours I saw,the songs, Stacia,Space Ritual era and all these bios are filled with items about firings of band members all slanted in Brocks favor. For example,why talk about Nik Turner being fired in the article? What about his songs ? In the whole Hawkwind and Nik Turner bios not one mention of "Brainstorm " or "Master of the Universe",but personal problems mentioned everywhere .—Preceding unsigned comment added by Gingrichrook ( talk • contribs) 02:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I'm going to try to address the issues you have raised in your rant:
Drwhawkfan ( talk) 09:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
There's no point in selectively editing Brock's personal info - either put it all in there or leave it all out. I think that perhaps it is too invasive, and so have removed the section entirely. — Drwhawkfan ( talk) 13:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Presently the article asserts that 'from the start' (1969) Brock's influences with Hawkwind included bands such as Neu and Kraftwerk. Both of these bands were formed many years after Hawkwind's first recordings, so whereas I don't dispute that they may have BECOME influences, it's logically impossible for them to have been original influences. Braka ( talk) 20:07, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
I've just checked Wiki's own references, according to which Neu's first album was released roughly between Hawkwind's second and third. Kraftwerk are cited as being formed in 1970, but Hawkwind were formed in 1969 (though they were 'Hawkwind Zoo' at that time). I have no arguments about Can whose first album predated Hawkwind's by about a year.
I'm a little bemused that if 'krautrock' were a major influence, Amon Duul II weren't mentioned, considering that a) they predated Hawkwind by two years, and b) Dave Anderson, bass player on Amon Duul's first two albums, left and joined Hawkwind for their first two albums. Not to mention that both he and Amon Duul frontman John Weinzierl collaborated with Robert Calvert, and that Anderson rejoined Hawkwind, and was ejected, meantime playing with both Nik Turner and Dead Fred in Inner City Unit - though obviously some of this this is from the 80's.
I think your suggestion "early in the band's evolution" makes more sense than the current version.
Braka ( talk) 17:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
This article is a bit thin, I suspect a great deal has been taken out but this should be a warts and all account of Brock's career. Would not harm to make it clearer that most of Hawkwind's work was collaborative even if Brock was the constant.
And shouldn't the article mention Dr Technical, Brock's 'alter ego'? Stub Mandrel ( talk) 18:54, 1 March 2016 (UTC)