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Removed some words to make the article more neutral
Also, removed rankings that were not cited to give article neutral perspective.
Changed all Dark Lords to capitalization for consistency — Preceding
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Requested move 1 March 2018
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The result of the move request was: consensus to move the pages, per the discussion below. Most of the usages on this page imply capitalization, so I have retained it per the request, but please feel free to initiate a new request to remove the caps if that's found to be necessary.
Dekimasuよ!01:13, 9 March 2018 (UTC)reply
Support, but do we really need both pages?. There's a lot of overlap, with the (fiction) article already containing a list of "Dark Lords", same as the current flat DAB page. I dunno, maybe if the new (disambiguation) page could be paired down to just the topics that are literally called "Dark Lord", it can stay. --
Netoholic@02:06, 2 March 2018 (UTC)reply
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Requested move 20 June 2021
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Lord Belbury: I don't think you meant to place your request directly into the contested section, but now that it's here anyway - it's not obvious to me that a majority of sources use "dark lord" and not "Dark Lord" (I can't access the cited sources and there's not a lot to find online). Title and usage in body should be consistent, but maybe it's the capitalised version that should be used consistently, I can't tell. So I suggest a formal RM.
Lennart97 (
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21:44, 20 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Thanks, yes, that was placed by mistake. If this needs more discussion, I'd add that lowercase is in line with similar entries in
Category:Stock characters like
black knight and
evil clown. Google book and ngram searches are enormously distorted by the fact that Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter all use the term as a proper name, in dramatic capital letters, but when we're talking about the trope ("Alberich, of the Ring cycle of Richard Wagner, is a prototypical dark lord") it's not a proper name, it's a lord who is dark. --
Lord Belbury (
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08:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
Support Yes, it is difficult to tell what reliable sources say on capitalization, so we should default to English grammatical rules: "dark lord" isn't really a formal title or a proper noun (when used in the generic sense), so it shouldn't be capitalized. If someone were to find evidence that "Dark Lord" is the
WP:COMMONNAME, I would oppose this move.
This ngram might have convinced me to oppose the move, but I know that the results are probably tainted with references to specific dark lords in fiction (who, individually, would likely have capitalized titles). Mysterymanblue 07:45, 21 June 2021 (UTC)reply
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