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I find the mid importance rating very low as the treaty of 1660 established political borders between Denmark, Sweden and Norway which have lasted to the present day. This alone should qualify it for a top importance rating. I am changing it for WikiProject Denmark. Perhaps someone at WikiProject Sweden will consider it as well. (
Ice Explorer (
talk) 11:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC))reply
True, this article focuses almost exclusively on the Swedish-Danish campaign. I'm a little bit unsure on how to best best incorporate the Deluge and the Polish-Lithuanian view (as well as the other participants) here. For now I added just a simple mention in the background, but I'm sure that's not enough!
I was planning on improving
Northern Wars after this one, flesh out it with a wider view of the broader background and participation of all belligerents and leaving this article to focus mostly on the Danish-Swedish events. But other suggestions on how to divide this somewhat messy part of history would be appreciated. henrik•
talk 20:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Dano-Swedish War
Dano-Swedish War is for some reason a redlink. I know there are a lot more Dano-Swedish wars than this one, so I assume that it would be best if a dab page was created.
I think I remember seeing a dab page somewhere: found it at
Dano-Swedish war. I've redirected the the above title to it, but perhaps we should be consistent with the capital-W spelling. henrik•
talk 10:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Suggestions for the GA Review
I notice that this article has been nominated for GA Review. I don't have time for a full review, but I have a couple of quick suggestions for improvements:
Citations: some of the notes can be consolidated using the
WP:NAMEDREFS system;
Endashes: a couple of endashes are required in the infobox, and in the page ranges in the citations.
Just a couple of ideas. Good luck with the GA review. —
AustralianRupert (
talk) 04:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)reply
Thanks! Dashes fixed. I'll see what I can do about the citations: In the current cite format I use, I'm tempted to think that named refs actually introduce more complexity than they solve (It's a different matter when you have a full {{cite}} template in the ref tags, in those cases they're essential.) Thank you for taking the time to give suggestions. henrik•
talk 05:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)reply
In this case, it's intentional: That template links to the dab page which lists all the wars.
Frederick III
Fixed.
Frederick William
Fixed.
Plague
Fixed.
Polyglot
Removed link.
In the aftermath of that conflict, the Swedish king Charles X Gustav had set his eyes upon Brandenburg and Austria to enable a campaign against Poland. What does "set his eyes upon" mean. Who was he intending to invade?
Thanks, I agree, that bit was somewhat unclear. Rephrased.
The treaty of 1660 established the political borders of Denmark, Sweden and Norway that have lasted to the present day. Not according to the map. I think you mean the borders between the three?
Yep. Rephrased.
Link Bornholm and Trøndelag
Done.
The Swedish king knew that the army would not be able to be supplied in Sweden for long I'd like to believe you but I don't. You park the army near a port in Sweden and bring in supplies from all over the Baltic by water. what's the problem?
Modern military logistics with supply lines from the rear started to develop in the 17th century; but foraging and pillaging were still common in the mid-1600s. It was essentially free to park your army on the enemy's land and take what you needed from the local land and local farmers; buying and shipping provisions would be a large expense for the small Swedish state.
Here are a few quotes from the sources:
Charles had to decide swiftly. Under the terms of Roskilde, the Danes were to supply him with 2000 men and maintain the Swedish army until it withdrew in May. Charles knew that it was impossible for him to support the army for long, and unthinkable to disband it when the Poles were thirsting for revenge, prepared to support an aggressive war beyond the Commonwealth's borders for the first time since 1635.
(Frost, p. 181)
Last but not least, he had a large army to support. It was simply not possible let it stay unused. The costs were too great. He could not disband it either, with the sensitive foreign situation.
(Isacson, p. 187)
Link Livonia and Estonia. (Advice to King Carl Gustav: invade Russia. that's what the real megalomaniacs do.)
Done. 40 years later, in the early 1700s, the then Swedish King
Charles XII actually did invade Russia. Napoleon and Hitler would later follow his mistakes :)
but the many enemies in Brandenburg Whao are we referring to?
Clarified.
field marshal Gustav Otto Stenbock Is field marshal his rank? Capitalise it.
Done.
The plan was for the Swedish army to march on Copenhagen. Reference required.
Done.
It was expected that the Dutch would intervene in the conflict, Why? (Hint: move it up from the next section.)
Done, thanks.
Vice admiral -> Vice Admiral
Done.
Thanks to the earlier preparations, a large force of 14,500 Brandenbrugers under Frederick William, 10,600 Austrians led by the Italian field marshal Raimondo Montecuccoli and 4 500 Poles led by Stefan Czarniecki had crossed the Oder on September 14, 1658. Comma required here in the last number
Done.
The Swedes were not popular in the regions that Sweden had gained at the Treaty of Roskilde in 1658. With the new war going badly, insurgents saw their chance to rise up against the unpopular rule. Reference required.
This reference is the only thing holding up promotion now.
Hawkeye7 (
talk) 21:38, 16 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Oops, missed this one. Somewhat expanded and referenced now. henrik•
talk 09:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Many thanks, good suggestions! I'll get cracking. Yep, it's an obscure little war, but it was arguably the beginning of the end of what was called the
Swedish Empire. I like to write about Swedish failures :-)
One northern war at a time :-) henrik•
talk 09:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Most of the sources are in Swedish, but Frost's The Northern Wars (1558-1721) is English. It only devotes a few pages to this particular war though (not surprising, it's an overview of nearly two centuries of history). I plan on expanding the coverage of this large multifaceted conflict in other articles, and for that I plan on expanding my collection of English language sources. I'll probably go back here then and revisit it give more weight to English sources, if nothing else to make verification more convenient. henrik•
talk 11:06, 15 May 2009 (UTC)reply
Delist significant unreferenced text and it seems no one is interested in fixing it. However, I hope that someone will step up and do so, as it looks completely fixable. buidhe 19:46, 23 May 2020 (UTC)reply
Delist Months later, still major swaths of uncited text. Fails the verifiability criteria. I'm also not a fan of the organization of the article, with over 80% of the text being stuck under the vague heading of "events".
Resowithrae (
talk) 14:07, 27 July 2020 (UTC)reply