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It's a little goofy that the odango hairstyle has its own article. That name is inextricably wrapped up in the connection with this type of food, and since both articles are extremely short, they would be well-served by being combined. --
Masamage♫03:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)reply
Why should odango be merged with dango? It would be mixing hair with a type of food. They have no relation to each other at all, whatsoever. It would confuse the readers, but I also believe that both are short articles and odango should be merged with an article about Japanese hair styles and that dango should be merged with an article about Asian food. It would save Wikipedia and the readers a lot of trouble.
68.204.255.20322:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)reply
"They have no relation to each other at all, whatsoever."
What on earth are you talking about? Odango is just the polite name for this kind of food, and the hairstyle was named after it because they're round. This is not a traditional Japanese hairstyle; it was popularized by Sailor Moon and the joke is dependent on knowing about the food. This objection makes no sense.
I don't think the articles should be merged, but
Odango (hairstyle) should be improved, extended, and probably renamed. The fact is that this hairstyle is seen in many different cultures. Merging it into
Dango would frustrate efforts to extend the page to similar hairstyles in different cultures (e.g. Chinese "ox tails" is already mentioned, although the authenticity of the name is suspect). I have removed the merge message in an effort to be bold, but if there is still disagreement, feel free to add it back. --
Andrew Robertson01:56, 9 April 2007 (UTC)reply
It's not about anything "not having a place," and it's not about removing content. It's about organization that presents our readers with all the information. Right now, looking at the hairstyle article leaves the reader thinking this is just a style of buns, which isn't so. It was popularized by a fictional character who only called them odango because they looked like the food. That context is unattainable without looking back at the food article. Both are so short that combining the two would improve both without any sacrifice. Not a single bit of info has to go away; they'd just support eachother instead of pretending to be different things. --
Masamage♫05:04, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
I see your point, but I am still hesitant. As I understand it, the odango name for that hairstyle originated in Sailor Moon, correct? Nonetheless, it seems to be a special case of the double-bun hairstyle, as is, perhaps, the Princess Leia hairstyle, and the Chinese "ox horns" (not "ox tails", as I misstated above). So I would prefer to see a double-bun article written (perhaps just a section under
bun (hairstyle)) with a note about special cases and names (and their origins) from different cultures. At that point,
odango (hairstyle) would most appropriately redirect to the bun page, and
dango could have a sentence with a relevant link.
On the other hand, if the odango name is really not used outside of Sailor Moon, perhaps the content should be merged into an appropriate Sailor Moon article? This seems to be more your territory :-) Thoughts?
AndyR06:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
As far as I know, no, the name "odango" is never used to describe the hairstyle outside the context of Sailor Moon (which kinda makes the article title itself disingenuous). I really like your idea of starting a special subsection in the bun article, though; that way we wouldn't have to worry about what's officially called what, and yes, work in the Princess Leia thing and the ox horns. We wouldn't even have to invent names for them, since we could just describe them in prose. Expand hairstyle information over there, talk about the Sailor Moon references to the food right here, apply redirects as needed. That all sounds excellent. --
Masamage♫06:43, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
Well, I work at a Elementary school in Japan, and people definitely use the term. Not just for the double-style, though. One little bob on top of your head is also called odango. Of course, that is original research, so it doesn't stand for the article, but just thought I would chip in.
MightyAtom07:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
I'm going to disagree, because while one came from another, they are completely different. A good example is Amerigo Vespuchi and America. The name "America" came from his name, yet he is definately not even close to being a country.
Personally, I'm in favor of maybe putting a mention in the article saying "This food was the inspiration for the name 'Odango'", and having an article link from it. But the naming convention is not a reason to merge, in my opinion
Sbloemeke12:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
That's because we don't think about Vespucci every time we talk about America. The word 'odango' is always a reference to the food, even when talking about hair.
But I'd be satisfied with just expanding the hairstyle thing more here. I do think the hairstyle article is useless as it is (limiting the article to odango, by giving it that title, means not covering other similar styles). Since I have been the main arguer in favor of this merge I will go ahead and take the templates down, replacing them with a merge template into the bun article, and start over. --
Masamage♫15:30, 10 April 2007 (UTC)reply
Da-n-go... da-n-go
I wish I had some Dango right now. I'm hungry. I just finished watching Clannad and the OP is about Dango. They're so cute, however, it made me even more hungry than I already am.
In the Fullmetal Alchemist Anime, you see Edward Elric eating four skewered dangos.
In Naruto, Tsunade-sama eats a lot of dango.
In the popular manga series Fruits Basket, Hanajima and her brother are usually seen eating dango.
ZOMG THEY'RE SEEN EATING FOODS!!!
This is not dango's so-called "rise to popularity". That section should be deleted OR should be heavily cut. I don't believe that anyone watched Fullmetal Alchemist and then decided to go eat some dango. —Preceding
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