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The subject of the article, Damion Scott, requested that I remove Photo A from the article, and replace it with Photo B, because he preferred that one. When I replied that I didn't think Photo B was preferable, due to what he's doing with his mouth in that latter Photo, Scott became irate, saying that this decision was "his to choose", and then angrily stating, "fist of all, half the info in my article is incorrect, BECAUSE its written by people like you who dont really know me.I'll take care of this myself - hopefully you never have to deal with the problem of people who dont know you creating you're public image...." It seems that he has now replaced the image with one of his own, Photo C. If a consensus here decides that the new one is preferable, then I'm fine with that.
Nightscream (
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19:28, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
Is the uploader of C the person in the photo? Did this Damion Scott take image C himself? Otherwise he should give evidence that this is a work for hire or we'd have to go with another by default. A and B are fine, this is not a beauty contest, but for identification. "his to choose"? Everyone wants to be nice, I think, but our goal is to built an encyclopedia, not a promotional tool.
Hekerui (
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19:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
"C" is a far better photo. By uploading it, the uploader is asserting they own the rights - which is quite common for commissioned work, or even for photos taken by friends who give the rights to their friend, and is always the case for a self-portrait taken with a self-timer. Unless you have good reason to assume the uploader is lying, assume good faith. --
Anthonyhcole (
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20:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
I think we have a far more important problem—this is a BLP based on a single source, and that single source is an interview. And, of course, having the subject himself edit his own article is a clear COI issue—he should be encouraged to propose edits on the talk page rather than making them to the article directly. Otherwise, if the licensing is legit, I'd go with C.
Curly Turkey¡gobble!23:19, 2 February 2015 (UTC)reply
C I'm not happy with his response. While understandable, we have to firmly point out that it is NOT his decision to choose. (That said, in close calls, I opt to give weight to the subject's preferences). This one is easy though. Photo C looks fine to me.--
S Philbrick(Talk)15:13, 3 February 2015 (UTC)reply
C is the good one. Subject can pick any photo as long as it really is the best one. No idea whether this fellow ought to have an article. I never heard of him but that's why I seldom do biographies especially of the living.
Jim.henderson (
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14:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)reply
C is the best but it's a copyvio. He uploaded it himself claiming he took the photo himself, but it's a professional publicity photo (even the file name reads "press photo"), not one he took himself, and thus the upload was a copyright violation. He needs to have the professional photographer email the photo to you to upload, along with a statement that he (the photographer) releases it via whatever Wikipedia-acceptable license he chooses, and then you can upload to Commons, correctly attribute the photographer, and forward the photographer's statement of release to OTRS. The photographer's email address needs to match his identity and publicly verifiable photography business.
Softlavender (
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02:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)reply