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Y Literally just quotes and place names, so no copyvio here.
Stability
Y The page itself seems stable enough, with no recent edit wars or controversies. Same for the talk page.
Prose / MoS
N Overall a lot of typos here a grammar issues here. These are the ones I picked out, but the page could really use some dedicated copy-editing to make things run smoother.
First para of lede, "referred as" -> "referred to as", "factor" -> "factors", "a limited support" -> "limited support"
Third para of lede, "various times, and" -> "various times and", "referring him by name" -> "referring to him by name"
First para of Background of creation, "indirectly, and" -> "indirectly and", "only a limited support" -> "only limited support", "the pledge of allegiance, until" -> "the pledge of allegiance until"
Second para of Background of creation, "Prior to" -> "Before", "mid June" -> "mid-June", "The nuclear weapons" -> "Nuclear weapons", "central issue" -> "central issues"
Synopsis, "she skips some numbers, and counts some twice" -> "she skips some number and counts some twice"
First para of Broadcast and impact, "this ad" -> "the ad", "striking images" -> "striking imagery", "sudden change" -> "sudden changes", "in increased" -> "is increased", "echoes W. H. Auden's poem "September 1, 1939" in which line 88 reads, "We must love one another or die."" -> "echoes line 88 of W.H. Auden's poem "September 1, 1939", which reads "We must love one another or die.""
Second para of Broadcast and impact, "Bill Moyers remembers" -> "Johnson's private assistant Bill Moyers remembers", "called him and said" -> "called him and asked,", "was objected by" -> "was objected to by", "and on conversation programs various times," -> "and conversation programs various times", "was replayed and analyzed endlessly" -> "was frequently replayed and analyzed", "was putting a "panic inspired falsehoods" on the television" -> "was putting "panic inspired falsehoods" on the television", "referred as" -> "referred to as", "commercial" -> "commercials", "The exact number of viewership of the commercial is unknown, but Robert Mann, the author of the book Daisy Petals and Mushroom Clouds estimates that about hundred million people saw it." -> "Whilst the exact viewership of the commercial is unknown, the author of the book Daisy Petals and Mushroom Clouds Robert Mann estimates that about a hundred million people saw it."
Third para of Broadcast and impact, "But just a few days later," -> "A few days later," (how many?), "related by a young girl eating ice-cream" -> "related by a young girl eating ice cream to the audience", "margins of popular vote" -> "margins of the popular vote"
First para of Later usage and impact, "multiple political broadcasts since" -> "multiple political broadcasts since being shown", "His advertisements" -> "Mondale's advertisements"
Second para of Later usage and impact, "until the 2000s, when" -> "until the 2000s when"
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Did you know nomination
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Overall: Article is a recent GA, long enough and sourced. No copyvio on Earwig and qpq is done I agree with @
A.C. Santacruz: I don't think we can run the same hook twice with a different page. This needs a different hook to be approved. Approving ALT1, ALT2 and ALT3b.
BuySomeApples (
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18:45, 28 August 2021 (UTC)reply
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BuySomeApples and
A. C. Santacruz: Well, here is the thing. I definitely know that a very similar (not same) hook ran a month ago, as I was the nominator. But, I see no DYK rules or guidelines preventing this, except a supplementary guideline, which says "Items that have been on DYK before are ineligible.". Now what does an "item" mean. The hook, the article, the image/media file, or all? This is one aspect of DYK, which is unclear about what should be done. And if we were to add more rules regarding the same, "it would make the process more complicated" (which still has many rules). This is definitely worth discussion. I still favor the main hook, but still providing some addition hooks to be considered. Feel free to suggest more, or reword the following hooks. –
Kavyansh.Singh (
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04:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)reply
ALT 2 ... that immediately after broadcast of the "Daisy" advertisement(pictured), the White House switchboard "lit up with calls protesting it [advertisement]"? Source: "Lyndon B. Johnson : Portrait of a President. Oxford University Press. ISBN 978-0-19-515920-2. LCCN 2003011360. p.186"
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Kavyansh.Singh: I totally get where you're coming from. I still think it's probably best to go with one of the alts since we just had a really similar hook. (Ironically, something similar to ALTalso ran in 2016 but that's so long ago that it doesn't matter). ALT1, ALT2 and ALT3 all look good to me, so I'm approving this nom. ALT3 fudges the details a little bit though. The obituary states that it's undisputed that Schwartz came up with the audio concept and that it was based on an earlier commercial of his, and the LOC says that "produced primarily by [Schwartz]". The authorship isn't exactly unknown, its just disputed what (if anything) DDB did to help come up with it. I rephrased it as ALT3b let me know if that's OK with you.
BuySomeApples (
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04:50, 29 August 2021 (UTC)reply
BuySomeApples – I'm fine with ALT 1, 2 and 3b. When a similar hook ran a month, this page (Daisy advertisement) received almost 16,000 views, while the bolded article hardly received 4000 views.... That inspired me to improve this article to GA standards. Feel free to approve the nomination. If possible, suggest some points for a FAC nomination on its peer review page.–
Kavyansh.Singh (
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05:31, 29 August 2021 (UTC)reply
The Johnson administration maintained 15,000 nuclear warheads in the US arsenal - the falsehood of this political ad is apparent. I have read political science tracts on this, but don't have the references off the top of my head.
50.111.29.1 (
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05:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)reply
The last lines of the advertisement quoted in the initial section appears to be a restatement of lines from the poem "September 1st, 1939", which contains the line: "We must love one another, or die."
Written as the poem was in the shadow of WW2, it seems unlikely to be a coincidence. Might be worth linking or mentioning on the phrase. I would, but article is locked.
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Following the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson
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Following the assassination of John F. Kennedy, Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson
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Please remove this:
As of the 2020 presidential election, Johnson has gained the highest share of the popular vote in a presidential election since it first became widespread in the 1824 election. The "Daisy" ad is considered one of the most important factors in Johnson's landslide victory over Goldwater.
and add this:
As of the 2020 presidential election, Johnson has gained the highest share of the popular vote in a presidential election since it first became widespread in the 1824 election, and the "Daisy" ad is considered one of the most important factors in his victory.
The removed text is simply redundant, since "landslide victory" is referenced two sentences earlier, and by this point in the article, everyone knows that Goldwater was his opponent.
120.21.4.98 (
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22:38, 7 September 2022 (UTC)reply
"Daisy" is an American
political advertisement that aired on television as part of
Lyndon B. Johnson's
1964 presidential campaign against
Barry Goldwater. Though officially aired only once, on September 7, 1964, it is considered a turning point in political and advertising history. It was designed to broadcast Johnson's
anti-nuclear positions, contrary to Goldwater's stance. The commercial begins with
Monique Corzilius, a three-year-old girl, picking the petals of a
daisy while counting from one to ten incorrectly. After she reaches "nine", a booming male voice is heard counting the numbers backward from "ten", similar to the start of a missile-launch countdown. The scene is replaced by a
nuclear explosion, with Johnson's voice-over stating: "We must either love each other, or we must die." Although the Johnson campaign was criticized for
frightening voters by implying that Goldwater would wage a
nuclear war, various other campaigns since have adopted and used the "Daisy" advertisement.
This article says that the Daisy Campaign had a major influence on the outcome of the election. However, the source it cites does not say that, and there are other sources that contradict it. While the cited source's title is '“Daisy”: The Most Effective Political Commercial Ever?' nowhere does it say that it impacted the election result. Rather, it seems to be talking about how much of an impact it made on future political ads. Furthermore, the claim that it was decisive is at least somewhat contradicted by sources like this one:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/09/07/daisy-girl-political-ad-still-haunting-50-years-later/15246667/Himajin5 (
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01:47, 10 May 2023 (UTC)reply
"Did this ad really work? Goldwater was far behind and he lost by a huge margin.
Legend is that the spot destroyed Goldwater’s candidacy, but I don’t believe it did. Anyone who suggests that the spot destroyed Goldwater would have to prove he was ever in the campaign with a chance to win. He wasn’t. From beginning to end, his poll numbers were always hovering around the mid-20s to low 30s.
That said, it’s interesting that after a monthlong barrage of [other] Johnson ads portraying Goldwater as a dangerous man who might blow up the world, Goldwater’s numbers in the Gallup polls actually edged up 3 points and Johnson’s numbers dropped by 4.
But polls did show the ad and other spots raised fears that a nuclear war was more likely under a President Goldwater. Fears dramatically increased that he was likely to get the United States into a war."
Himajin5 (
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01:54, 10 May 2023 (UTC)reply