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You may well be right on that point. The refs used in the article were not at all clear about this, so if you have a better ref that would clear this relationship up that would be very useful to improve the article. -
Ahunt (
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20:12, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
(EC) If it helps (but bearing in mind that we can't use other wiki pages as a reference) the German article says this: Der Schulgleiter ist eine Weiterentwicklung aus den Mustern Zögling 31 und Zögling 35 which translated says 'The school glider is a further development of the Types Zögling 31 and Zögling 35.'
Nimbus(Cumulus nimbus floats by)20:38, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
Schneider
Weren't the first SG-38's not build by Schneider, making it the Schneider SG-38 instead of Stamer Lippisch SG-38?
Also I think the first flight was in 1938 (not 1926), hence the "38" in the designation. --
Antheii (
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20:34, 23 May 2011 (UTC)reply
You are correct those two are the Konstrukteure - but in this case, with my somehow limited knowledge of the German language, could best be translated as designer, not as builder. Also, the same page says the builder was Flugzeugwerk Schneider in Grunau. And according to the same page, the prefix "SG" even is derived from this Schneider-Grunau, and not from Schulgleiter, in contrast to popular belief - although this probably was a nice coincidence.
That certainly is one way to handle it. We really need to find a ref that clearly explains the relationship between the two and then make a decision whether to split into two articles or treat them as "one family of designs" within the same article based on that. -
Ahunt (
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12:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)reply
The split was fairly incomplete, with lots of overlap in the two articles, including the titles. I have moved both and split them as far as I can do so to make sure they do not overlap. I would appreciate it if other editors would check that I did that right, including the best titles for the articles. -
Ahunt (
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17:42, 2 August 2011 (UTC)reply
I think that is very likely. After the original design there seem to have been many copies made by a range of individuals and companies, all called Zögling as well. -
Ahunt (
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18:21, 2 August 2011 (UTC)reply
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Stamer Lippisch Zögling → Zögling – This is the common name of all the license-built Zöglings with a few exceptions. Re-naming will also remove some confusion over naming that has surfaced in the past. The major point is that they are all almost identical aircraft with only variations introduced by the various licencees.
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