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The article on the Community of Christ is well put together but in reading the membership details supplied by the Church itself 'Mission Field 2006' enrollment to say the Church has an approximate world membership of 250,000 is rather much an over statement! The 2006 figures supplied by the Church itself adds up to 195,193 members which increased slightly from the 2005 or so the Church says. The 250,000 figure was first used by the Commmunity of Christ back before the many problems they went through with membership losses to breakaway groups protesting female ordination, especially to the Office of Apostle and comments made about the role and position of the Book of Mormon in that Church. Some of the breakaway groups that left the Community of Christ are small but a few have many thousands of members so that 250,000 just didn't seem accurate at all. 71.35.251.112 ( talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:22, 6 July 2009
I am quite unclear as to what the function of the box on the left hand side is. It contains very little relevent or important information. The image that is being used in the box is also a little strange in that it is not the Community of Christ seal, but a version of it that has been accepted by the US government for use on grave stones for Community of Christ members. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.171.196.251 ( talk) 08:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm quite ignorant of the church, but the deleted passage about a decline by 75 percent in Sunday worship catches my interest. The allegedly unclear statistic does, of course, lack information about which exact years the decline refers to, but a reference to the recent schisms gives an approximate time frame which, in light of the dramatically high number, would seem to be adequate.
In what way is a printed source unverifiable? And how about other sources? Does the church provide statistics, as most churches do? If this source is questionable, is it merely because it is critical of the current direction of the church, or are there other reasons?
In my view, an alleged decline in attendance by 75 percent over a few decades is - if true - an important aspect of the article. It seems important to establish the possible factual accuracy of the statement. -- Jonund ( talk) 21:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
75% is a big number, but there has been a decline in membership (and especially active membership). Roger Launius provides the following numbers: In 1994, the annual number of baptisms was 1/3 the average number for the mid-1960s. 25k-50k joined schismatic groups. Contributions down 50% (real $) since 1978. 40% membership (150k still on books) seen as active. Roger D. Launius, "The Reorganized Church, the Decade of Decision, and the Abilene Paradox," Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 31, no. 1 (1998): 47-65. 24.233.254.29 ( talk) 23:47, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
"It seems, however, intent on discarding its heritage in favor of a liberal, pluralistic theology, adopted in recent decades.[6]"
I am at a loss to see where the referenced article by Richard Howard supports the ideas presented here. This is clearly interpretation, rather than referencing. Having read several of Richard Howard's articles and books, and having met him, I can say confidently that he would not support the ideas presented in the passage quoted above. Richard Howard was Community of Christ official historian for many years, and therefore charged with the task of upholding the importance of the movement's heritage.
Could you please explain to me where it says in Howard's article that the Community of Christ is, or seems to be "intent on discarding its heritage in favour of a liberal, pluralistic theology"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ricktopher ( talk • contribs) 15:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps a more neutral re-phrasing of this could be also shifted away from the introduction, and into the section on Community of Christ history. This could be in place of the sentence, "Within the past several decades, the church has undergone radical changes, discarding many of its distinctive doctrines." Just as the sentence in the introduction, this sentence also is not representing a neutral point of view, nor is it providing an entirely accurate depiction of the changes that have occurred. These changes seem to represent a changing understanding of its traditional doctrines, rather than a discarding of doctrines. My suggestion would be something along the following lines: "Since the 1960's the church’s proselytizing with other world cultures in countries outside North America forced a re-assessment and gradual evolution of denominational practices and beliefs." This is for the most part identical to a sentence in the article History of the Community of Christ, which I believe is also probably the best location for any more detailed treatment of these issues. -- Ricktopher ( talk) 14:35, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
What constitutes personhood according to Community of Christ? Does it include the unborn? What about people in a coma? Has there ever been any official statement on that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.193.112.62 ( talk • contribs) 14:36, 12 April 2011
I think the official publications drop the word "the" and just refer to Community of Christ. Shouldn't this be standardized one way or the other? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.193.112.62 ( talk) 14:38, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
With regard to your comment on grammar, you are correct. So, Isn't the question really "the Community of Christ" versus "The Community of Christ"? 128.218.42.123 ( talk) 06:18, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
A recent edit changed Trinitarian to Sabellianism in the infobox. I was unsure of such a drastic change, but not being an expert in CoC doctrine I though I should bring this up on this talk page. Is the CoC in fact a Trinitarian faith, or does it have more nuanced beliefs, such as Sabellianism? -- 208.81.184.4 ( talk) 17:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
joseph smith jr had the a priesthood given by the original apostles how come that there is another successor who dont have the priesthood became a president of the church? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.191.156.78 ( talk) 10:39, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
As I skimmed over the article as a part of the WikiProject Latter Day Saint movement, I noticed that this organisation was repeatedly referred to as 'Community of Christ', rather than 'the Community of Christ', so I propose that each of these instances be changed to include merely a running 'the', not part of the title, merely for the sake of proper English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph Yanchar ( talk • contribs) 09:18, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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Between 2014 and 2018 the church memberhip grew from 197.000 ( https://www.cofchrist.org/Common/Cms/resources/Documents/FY-2014-CofC-audit-FS.pdf) to 250.000 ( https://www.cofchrist.org/common/cms/resources/Documents/FY18-CofC-Audit-Report.pdf). That is a 27% growth rate within 4 years. At the same time the number of congregations went down by 37 (from 1.139 to 1.100). I think the miracle growth deserves to be highlighted. Probably the largest growth of any denomination in the world in that timespan. Praise the ... well maybe not for this one. Shai-Huludim ( talk) 17:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.kcur.org/community/2013-05-03/community-of-christ-oks-gay-marriage-and-clergy SugaryHull ( talk) 20:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
In the lede it was suggested that some elements "unique" to Mormonism included prophetic revelation. It's an odd claim, because prophets have arisen in dozens if not hundreds of other churches and sects. And those churches and sects are being led by the prophetic claims of these prophets claiming direct revelation from god. So it's not unique at all. Wjhonson ( talk) 16:36, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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The Peace section under Teachings and Practices makes several mentions of how the Kirtland Temple was used, but these are still in present-tense. How should this section be revised to reflect recent events? RedKnight7146 ( talk) 23:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)