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H.R. 40 - Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act
The overcoming opposition section is clearly biased. Even the title of the section suggests that the idea is inherently good and that opposition must, should and will be overcome. In the section, statements like 'this should not be used as an excuse' and discussing what an 'elite set of Black people' need or don't need. Perhaps the section could be made neutral by changing the title of the section to 'opposition' and counterarguments could be included in it. The section should clearly indicate who has argued certain opinions and include a greater variety of opinions.
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I agree. I was actually about to create this article when I saw somebody had already done so. I initially couldn't find it due to the extremely long title! Its common name is H.R. 40 and this should therefore be the page's name.
Xbee30 (
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23:48, 16 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Apart from being ambiguous even within the USA, the proposed title H.R. 40 is unrecognisable to most of the rest of the world.
Andrewa (
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11:17, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppoose: Not only does every two-year term of the U.S. Congress have an H.R. 40 (so probably 100+ of them over time), but many U.S. states use the same terminology in their state legislatures, so there are likely multiple bills named H.R. 40 still active today.
Move to another name, probably "Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Act" or maybe "Commission to Study and Develop Reparation Proposals for African-Americans Bill"; that's the usual way of addressing legislation, and I suspect that this subject will end up being about more than just the present 116th Congress, since I've found at-least-similar versions of the bill back to at least 1993 (see
version of the bill 1993 version), and some sources (unsure of reliability) claim back to 1989, which is unusual for legislation. Though it says "Act" in the legislation's own wording, traditionally legislative proposals are called "Bills", because until and unless they become law, they are not acts, so "Act" is a bit misleading if a bill doesn't get signed. "H.R. 40" by itself is ambiguous: Not only does every two-year term of the U.S. Congress have an H.R. 40, most of which have not been versions of this bill (so probably 90+ of them over time), but many U.S. states use the same terminology in their state legislatures, so there are likely multiple bills named H.R. 40 active even today, and hundreds in history. And since a similar version has been introduced in multiple terms of Congress, putting a specific Congress in the title would make it outdated every even year in January. Perhaps
H.R. 40 should remain a redirect with a hatnote at the top of this target article, if no other H.R. 40 is a plausably-notable topic; that seems to be what we do with other page names like that. --
Closeapple (
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20:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
Agree that H.R. 40 should redirect to this article (as it has for the past month) until and unless some other notable topic comes up that could share that name. But whether that ambiguity is then handled by a DAB or hatnote or whatever we can't decide until then.
Andrewa (
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22:37, 24 April 2020 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.