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SS, while sometimes seen in connection with vessels on the BC coast, was so far as I can see not commonly used at this time (1910 to 1913) to designate this or other ships of this type in this region. See for example Rushton, Whistle Up the Inlet, at pages 54-55 and 67-69, which mentioning Cheslakee a number of times, as well as a number of other similar ships, does not use prefix SS at any time in reference to the vessel, although it is so used in the index. It appears to be an editorial anachronism however, adopted for the purpose of readily distinguishing steamships from motor vessels or from similarly named non-ship topics. One also sees the prefix used in modern on-line image libraries, this again seems to me an anachronism, and contrary to the general use of the times. As Rushton was an employee of the
Union Steamship Company of British Columbia from 1920 to 1959, his usage seems authoritative. For other examples of this practice of generally not referring to inland ships by the prefix SS, please refer to the sources listed at
User:Mtsmallwood#Bibliography (printed and Google books sources). Also, please refer to the example images (there are others, see link to commons below). Consequently
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (ships)#Civilian Ships therefore seems to counsel non-use of the prefix, and I have followed this convention in numerous articles on similar ships of this time in this region.
1912 advertisement uses term "Steamer Fortuna"
1901 advertisement uses term "Steamer Sentinel"
1907 or 1908 advertisement for "Steamer Yosemite".
1900 advertisement for "Steamer State of Washington"
With respect, I don't find this a persuasive case for not using the prefix, because there is nothing special about the way "inland ships" are referred to. It is very common for steamships to be referred to as "steamer X" or just "X" in contemporary sources for every kind of steamship, but we need a consistent naming standard here on Wikipedia and "SS" is a universally recognized prefix for steamships. Also, you yourself note that modern sources frequently employ "SS" to refer to these ships, so I see no compelling reason why we should do otherwise.
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