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The article states that his father is
Chen Kenmin, who I assume is Chinese. But the article doesn't say anything about his mother and it doesn't say he's mixed. Is there any source to say that his mother is Japanese, making him mixed Chinese and Japanese?
Hong Qi Gong (
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02:18, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
In the Japanese wiki article about his father
ja:陳建民 (Chen Kenmin), it says Chen Kenmin moved to Japan in 1952, married wife Yoko (洋子) in 1953, and then became Japanese citizen the following year. I put some of that info into the
Chen Kenmin article. And son Chen Kenichi was born in Japan, in 1956.
Anyways, that makes Chen Kenichi half-Japanese, half-Chinese by blood. Furthermore, Kenichi and Kenmin were both Japanese citizens.
There's not really any sources to confirm either or, is there? All I know is that his father is ethnic Chinese. His mother's name is Yoko, but that doesn't say anything about her ethnicity because you need to adopt a Japanese name to obtain Japanese citizenship. By the way, this issue is not a big deal or anything, I'm mostly just curious.
Hong Qi Gong (
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04:23, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Here you go. This source says "父親が中国人、母親が日本人の華僑二世". Translated, it means "his father was Chinese, his mother was Japanese, and Chen was 2nd generation
Overseas Chinese (華僑)". This source is related to
Kyodo News of Japan, so it is reliable.--
Endroit04:52, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Are you playing stupid? Or are you just ignorant, HongQiGong? Go read
Chinese in Japan, and tell me if they use "華僑" and "在日中国人" interchangeably or not. Also, like I've said before, Chen Kenichi's father became Japanese citizen in 1954.--
Endroit07:35, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Hey no need to get worked up here. Like I said, I'm just curious. I asked about citizenship because a lot of Chinese and Korean people are residents in Japan without actually taking Japanese citizenship. And I'm aware of the
Chinese in Japan article, well aware of it enough that I know it doesn't actually discuss citizenship.
Hong Qi Gong (
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07:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Chen Kenichi was born in Japan in 1956. At that time, his father Kenmin was "華僑" (huá qiáo) AND Japanese citizen simultaneously. And his mother was Japanese to begin with. I believe I gave you all that information above, didn't I?
Umm guys, calm down. Chen Kenichi is as Japanese as bonsai, tea, and rice wine. Oh wait, those are all Chinese things!
Seriously though, Chen Kenichi is half Chinese, half Japanese. He has Japanese citizenship. You are right that many Chinese/Koreans in Japan don't have Japanese citizenship, which is partly (by my understanding) because Japan has stringent ethnicity criteria for citizenship. However, as Chen Kenichi is 50% Japanese by lineage, there is no problem for him. --
Sumple (
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08:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Yeah no need to get worked up. I'm just curious, that's all. If Endroit is so sure he is a citizen, then I'll take his word for it. I don't know how citizenship laws in Japan work. Is citizenship automatically extended to children of naturalised citizens? And that his mother is a citizen does not necessarily mean he is. Some countries don't grant citizenship matriarchically. And there's also an absolutely huge difference between being automatically eligible for citizenship, and actually obtaining citizenship. Being eligible for it does not mean you have it - you still have to go claim it. I just had questions about Chen Kenichi's citizenship status, that's all. Citizenship laws are really not as simple as you would think.
Hong Qi Gong (
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16:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
So just take my (and Sumple's) word for it, HongQiGong. Otherwise you'll be be in a bind, trying to prove your point, whatever that is.--
Endroit17:02, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
Jeebus. I'm not trying to prove any point. I just had some questions and I was curious! How many times do I have to repeat that? You act like I'm lurking behind you with a knife pointed to your back or something.
Hong Qi Gong (
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17:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
If your mommy and daddy were BOTH Japanese citizens, and you were born in Japan, you would be a Japanese citizen too, regardless of your ethnic background. It would be inconceivable that you would somehow become a citizen of
PRC and/or
ROC, or whatever else. Just take my word for it. Others are welcome to comment here as well.--
Endroit17:22, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
That's great. I was just asking questions. And hey, thanks for nominating a template I created for deletion after our little discussion here. I like how you think I have ulterior motives in asking some simple questions here, then check my contrib history and nominate something I created for deletion.
Hong Qi Gong (
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18:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
The reason for suggesting the deletion of
Template:Disputed islands claimed by Japan is specified in
WP:TfD (therein lies my motives), and has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. By the way, I have
Dokdo,
Senkaku Islands,
Kuril Islands, and
Tsushima Island all in my watchlist, and that's where I saw your revert-war today (in ALL of those 4 pages), alerting me to the POV nature of your template. You're welcome to get a 3rd opinion from an admin if you feel I have violated any procedures there.--
Endroit19:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
And what has that got to do with Chen Kenichi? HongQiGong, I suggest you keep your discussions separate, because that is being discussed in
WP:TfD, and not here.--
Endroit19:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)reply
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