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Wikipedia being a worldwide resource, I added metric equivalents for everything. Also corrected the spelling of the Polish cherry cordial--it's Wisniak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkocz ( talk • contribs) 18:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I edited the paragraph about "cracking" revising the sentences and adding new tips based on an old family prctice of cooling the cheesecake in the oven once it is turned off. I also added common practices for covering the cracks. Steph102 02:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Steph102
I deleted the incoherent "Trivia" section about Al Terzi. Said section consisted of one paragraph, of which was the following:
"Cheesecake was actually a Supreme Court case in 1997. Al Terzi's case of the oxymoron cake would not only jump from his state court in Montana, but actually made it to the supreme court. However after the second court session the case was overruled. The term 'cheese cake' was considered to be too oftenly used and had American Heritage to it. Terzi's new name19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC) 74.93.226.77 ( talk) 19:34, 26 April 2017 (UTC)qowejewurhiweukiwhfnehfn had he won the case was to call it 'Cream Cheese Pie' and/or 'Tart Cheese Pie.' Terzi has yet to appeal his case to court again."
That paragraph doesn't make coherent sense. I did a Google search on *cheesecake AND "Al Terzi"*, and on *"Al Terzi" AND "Supreme Court" AND cheesecake*, to see if I could find the details which this paragraph is referring to, in order to get more information so as to be able to clarify the text and make it coherent, but all I could find was a link back to the Wikipedia cheesecake article, a bunch of irrelevant cheesecake recipes at http://www.wfsb.com , and a small number of links with more irrelevant data. I could find nothing about Al Terzi and a Supreme Court case dealing with cheesecake. 209.208.77.152 08:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
-- Thephotoman 03:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)Is cheesecake a cake, tart, pastry or pie? I would argue that it is a cake, as it has the general properties of a cake. It is also classified as a cake in the Fanny Farmer cookbook (by Marrion Cunningham), which is a classic.
-- 24.0.39.17 20:44, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
Well, to quote from our own cake article:
A cheesecake isn't baked, and it doesn't contain flour. So yes, it's called a cake, but I think that's a bit of a misnomer. If there's serious disagreement over this, perhaps it would be best to simply call it a "dessert". -- Camembert
personally i call it cheesecake pie
Cake pie? What is this, the stone ages? Jesus. I've heard stupid names for cheesecake in the past, but this one takes the cake pie!
New Yorkers don't claim paternity over cheesecake, merely that the best cheesecake, both Italian or Jewish, are made here. That Roman cookbook is by Apicius. A Roman cheesecake recipe? Well, some read a hamburger recipe into Apicius too... Wetman 02:03, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)
This page has nothing to do with beefcake. The fact that beefcake is a word play on 'cheesecake' does not make it relevant to this article. - James Foster 02:25, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
It is a fact that for many decades, pinup pictures of "scantily clad" females, to use the hackneyed phrase, have been called "cheesecake". History of Pinup Cheesecake. By analogy, pictures of male "hunks" displaying a similar amount of semi-nudity or implied nudity are "beefcake". YTHFG%^EDTRFGH$ECTRFYGH^%EDYFGT^&RYTFYGH&DTFG Since the page has only one word in the title, it will need to either contain disambiguation text or become a disambiguation page that directs to Cheesecake (dessert) and Cheesecake (pinups). Sorry, User talk:James Foster, but that is the only approach that makes sense. Hu 03:51, 2004 Nov 21 (UTC)
I'll move the page and add a disambiguation page. Thanks! James Foster 07:29, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, this page should be moved back to Cheesecake with a link at the top to Cheesecake (disambiguation) to handle the relation to Cheesecake (pin-up). The dessert usage is far more prevalent. -- Solipsist 05:48, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I just removed the following:
This is complete bs. It was copied over word for word from an article at about.com. If anyone wants to give a valid reference on the history of cheesecake, go right ahead.
In the US, the term "cheesecake" does not mean "a cake made out of cheese"; it's a specific baked dessert made out of cream (or similar) cheese. If there is some other international meaning of the word, feel free to add it, but be sure to make the distinction. To say "the Greeks invented cheesecake" is nonsense to the American reader, whereas "the Greeks were the first to make desserts out of cheese" isn't. -- Sean Kelly 19:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Someone (presumably from Boston) took out the reference to Junior's in Brooklyn and replaced it with Boston. As far as I know, Junior's is a more well known place to get cheesecake than the entire city of Boston. If you want to add another famous source of cheesecake, go right ahead. But linking to Junior's is not spam; just ask any New Yorker. — Sean κ. + 03:48, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
please someone place correct information it would help alot to know what is not bs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.50.19.150 ( talk) 15:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I added the types of Cheesecakes that I have baked or have direct knowledge of and a short history of each. I also changed "American-style" cheesecakes to "New York-style" cheesecakes in the comment about Junior's as it does not make sense in context of the new delineation I have offered.-- Rakista 19:53, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
It said this page was going to have evidence about why I was preminantly blocked from editing, but it's cheesecake instead, why was I blocked because of cheesecake? Please tell me-- Archive13 23:26, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
According to dee_emm of LiveJournal, there was a resturaunt that had the Chinese for "cheesecake" translated as Wikipedia.
Thought y'all ought to know. -- Thephotoman 03:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
le cheesecake c'est le fromage et le dessert à la fois. -- Jerome Potts 04:49, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
http://www.vinoviosgourmetcheesecakes.com/750_500_csupload_55799810.jpg?u=721814833 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinovio ( talk • contribs) 01:57, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
A better photo of a sliced through cheesecake is needed, if anyone has one to submit please do so.
Thank-you.
I also think there should be more pictures for reference. Thank You. http://www.vinoviosgourmetcheesecakes.com/Cake-Eater-.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinovio ( talk • contribs) 01:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be a lot of vandalism recently and subsequently a lot of reverting. Something should be done about the perpetrator. 165.230.46.142 20:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah. Just today I deleted this: "It a Pie deal with it Chad Pressly Roberts." -- 205.201.141.146 20:24, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Anythoughts on adding Fried Cheesecake? [1], though, I cannot find a picture at the moment. Thanks, CarpD 4/25/07.
Not to bring up an old battle, but it is absolutely well established that, culinarily speaking, cheesecake is a (custard) pie. It is a baked filled crust as opposed to a chemically risen flour-based desert. When cookbooks list cheesecake under the cake section, it's for the sake of laypersons who, understandably, are confused due to the name. This is the same case as boston cream pie, which is a cake. - Superbeecat 18:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
While not all modern definitions of cake specify that it must contain flour, all of them indicate that flour is a persistent ingredient (too many references to cite, but compare 5 or more dictionaries). Looking at the etymology of the word cake, it is derived from Sumerian era (or ironically PIE, if you subscribe to that linguistic theory) usage, which was specifically a flour cake akin to bread, not a dessert. There is no reference nor support for the idea that cheesecake is a type of torte. Tortes are traditionally made with flour (although there are plenty of recipes without flour). Citing that ‘proper’ cheesecake is made with flour and/or a springform pan is disingenuous at best, since these are American and specifically New York modifications to an existing recipe that does not require either.
Looking at the origins of the word pie, we find an original M.L. meaning of enclosing in pastry. Some more modern definitions (entry 2.2) talk about a filling in a pastry shell. This could be easily applied to the crust that is common (but not universal) to cheesecake. This crust then appears to me to be the dividing line between cakes (including tortes) which have none and pies. Does anyone have a reference to cakes that have a crust? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.223.135 ( talk) 07:58, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey guys, I managed to find the following input on this issue buried within the depths of the internet. Unfortunately it doesn't have any reliable source backing it up, but maybe this might lead us somewhere productive?
What separates cake from pie is not how it is presented, but how it is prepared. And, frankly, cheesecake is prepared like a cake. You combined sweeteners with a binding agent (eggs), a liquid (cream), and a fat (butter). A pie is something filled with a base ingredient (or more), though often sweetened and sometimes flavored with spices, but that base is not usually mixed with anything except in the case of custards. Typically pies do not require any sort of binding agent, and many pies don't require any sort of blending.
You cannot easily make a cheesecake in the way you'd make a pie. It will not be much like cheesecake at all once you start taking away the things that make it a cake (eggs, butter, etc.), and doing so gives you a result that is noticably different than a traditional cheesecake. 71.197.214.141 ( talk) 20:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
There is no solid evidence or reliable sources that state that cheesecake is a a pie. Therefore, it is a cake, hence the name. Karekare1 ( talk) 16:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree that we need sources.
However, the lack of sources that it is a pie, does not mean that it is a cake. Perhaps we can have the compromise text I have inserted until there is an authoritative source? Alice.S 16:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Here: http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Season5/Cheesecake/CheesecakeTranscript.htm - superβεεcat 05:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC) Here: http://www.instructables.com/id/Cheesecake/ - superβεεcat 05:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC) Here: http://everything2.com/title/Cheesecake%2520is%2520pie etc...
WP:EL states, right at the top: "Wikipedia articles should include links to Web pages outside Wikipedia if they are relevant. Such pages could contain... information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail ... or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to their reliability."
Because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia written for the benefit of its readers, but Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, it is inappropriate to include Cheesecake recipes in the main article.
Clearly it is useful to our readers if we could have one great external link to a compendium of cheesecake recipes.
Please would editors] not be WP:POINTy until we find that great link and help preserve the existing (insufficient) links until that happens.
The fundamental encapsulation of our external links policy is that adding external links can be helpful to everyone, but they should be restricted to those that are most meritable, accessible and relevant to the article.
A recipe is a recipe (whether it is on a blog or not) and I do not believe that 4 links is excessive (in the absence of that "one great external link to a compendium"). Alice ✉ 18:47, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Archiving "Ann Arbor style cheesecake" subsection -- 68 hits on google, most referring to the silliness of the style. It also sounds the same as cheesecakes made elsewhere. Janet13 ( talk) 23:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
There seems to be some disagreement as to whether National Cheesecake Day (30 July) belongs in this article. I found a lot of web sources for its (unofficial) existence. I guess I could be persuaded that it is not really germane, but it seems at least as relevant as cheesecake consumption in sitcoms. Should we get rid of the entire section? Peter Chastain ( talk) 23:30, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
I think there is a little tunnel vision here about what constitutes a cheesecake. The very first sentence reads:
This is certainly the case for most cheesecakes it is not a universal truth. Consider this cake: http://www.open2.net/download/everwonderedfood/cheesecake.pdf that is a single homogeneous layer not separated into topping and base. That is a true cheesecake that follows a regular cake recipe only with cheese (ricotta in this case) substituting for part of the flour. CrispMuncher ( talk) 18:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Despite their name, cheesecakes are technically cakes;
Before the article was protected this should have been changed back to pies.
What happened to the Styles section? It was there in November, removed for no apparent reason and since then the article seems to lean on the 'baked only' side of the food. Is it worth putting back? Nanonic ( talk) 02:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Is there a reference for [ [3]]? Gerardw ( talk) 18:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
for the section where they talk about the different styles of cheese cake in north america, they don't mention california style cheese cake which is baked cheese cake with a thin layer of sour cream frosting. is it not popular enough to mention? i thought that it was one of the main varieties. let me look for some sources. — Preceding
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and that was my first time ever discussing an article, so i'm sorry this is attatched to the lindy's part. i was also wondering if anyone could say whether or not all the styles of the different countires are baked or unbaked? what they are topped with is not really my main interest in a style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.59.140.196 ( talk) 06:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone else think this is almost at good article standards? Maybe if a few more citations were added it would be enough. InverseHypercube ( talk) 06:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
none of the pictures look particularly appetizing, we really need some pictures of premium cheesecake. (like from the cheesecake factory) I've got a few of a white chocolate raspberry truffle cheesecake if anyone wants to add some. (not sure what the policy is on that, or how to go about doing so) 96.232.200.150 ( talk) 20:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)