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Distinguish between conduct, ethics, ethical violations (intended and unintended UI) and cheating
Official rules cited; who has jurisdiction for what
a generic treatment of the various methods of cheaters - how they do it
Administrative responsibilities of bridge governing bodies
rules, regulations and policies; clarity around what is and is not permitted
policies and procedures around policing and enforcement of rules and regulations; cheating prevention measures; cheating detection measures
disciplinary procedures and actions; initial contacts, record keeping, evidence collecting
initial hearing and timing; appeals procedures and timing
distinguish between the Laws of Bridge and the Law of the Land (civil prosecution and civil lawsuits)
Incidents chronologically
who is alleged to have cheated
how detected or determined
the facts as adjudicated
the decision by the regulatory body(ies)
final disposition of the individual(s); revocation of individual awards, titles and standings
decisions as to the retention or vacating of team titles; amendments to the ranking of tournament results
Voluntary withdrawals
investigated
not investigated
See also
References
Further reading
Careful
This draft topic is extremely sensitive and Wiki policies with respect to biographies of living persons and the requirement for a high standard of reliable and verifiable sources, properly referenced, is paramount for survival of this initiative. We should not become obsessed by a vengeful 'gotch-you' mentality. We should focus on the policies and mechanisms in place by governing bodies to detect and address suspected cheating and document what those bodies have and have not done. This is not a tabloid for racy headlines but we can and should include succinct accurate reporting of verifiable facts on specific incidents with a neutral point of view. Let not our distaste for the cheaters compromise our editorial integrity in doing the reporting.
Newwhist (
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16:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I'm very much with you on
WP:BLP,
WP:NPOV, and the need for
WP:RS citations.
I'll continue to sign my posts, and to strike out rather than to edit in older ones, for your ease of reading. This is your article; feel free to delete unnecessary stuff.
I have a near-complete set of International Popular Bridge Monthly (IPBM), and an incomplete run of Bridge Magazine. If you'd like citations to their reports on specific incidents, I might be able to find them.
Agree with a comment by colleague
Narky Blert that we should report on allegations that are investigated and where the accused are found not guilty or are found guilty of a lesser offence. This provides a more robust treatment of a variety of cases where the process (strengths and weaknesses) is as worthy of description as is the allegation.
Newwhist (
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21:55, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I would add: rumours documented in
WP:RS (I stress,
WP:RS) sources should be included, with "as of such a date[update]" comments (not quite
WP:OR) that nothing came of them. Mud sticks, often unfairly. Unrefuted accusations can damage reputations.
What is the date of the Bermuda Bowl Franklin was writing about and I will check The Bridge World magazine for any entries recognizing that this is unlikely if there was no formal intervention.
Newwhist (
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12:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)reply
I quoted all material parts of the Franklin article; he gave no dates. On checking, my mistake - it was Altman-Sontag who won the 1973 Sunday Times Invitational. Neither had then competed in any World Championship, so far as I can see. The rumours may have been about another of the 14 18 pairs in that STI. If there is no other evidence, and especially if there was no official statement, I think that that this whole section including the Franklin quote should be deleted from the draft article. I found the quote a rather unpleasant innuendo and slur ("No smoke without fire...").
It's probably not worthy of inclusion, but Sontag recounts an entertaining story in The Bridge Bum about taking some measure of revenge for one of his clients against a gang who were carving him up at high-stakes rubber bridge.
Narky Blert (
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15:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Administrative procedures: example
Far too long for inclusion in the article, and not deserving of special attention: an anonymous case from England in 1978, which nevertheless is an indication of how such things were handled:
"At an E.B.U. event earlier this year a competitor was seen altering a travelling score slip after the session to which it related had been completed. Taking into consideration the player's previous good character, his complete apology and obvious contrition, the [Laws and Ethics] Committee imposed a suspension of six months from the 4th September 1978 and the player concerned has decided not to appeal against this decision. The Committee wishes to stress that it considers offences of this nature most serious and the penalty imposed the absolute minimum available. [...] The Committee would like to state that in certain circumstances such conduct might result in expulsion from membership for an indefinite period."<ref>{{cite journal |journal=English Bridge Quarterly |issue=51 |date=November 1978 |page=11 |title=Laws and Ethics }}</ref>
Narky Blert (
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18:48, 5 October 2015 (UTC)reply
This has already been touched on above under "Careful" and "Innocent or guilty?", but I think we need to be careful to distinguish between cases where the relevant governing body has found cheating proved and those that remain allegations, some almost certainly true but others more doubtful. It's easy for a bridge player to become a little paranoid in defeat and to believe that he must have been cheated when perhaps he hasn't been. So I'd suggest splitting the "Incidents" section into two subsections, with titles along the lines of "Confirmed instances of cheating" (where we explain that by "confirmed" we mean a pair or team found guilty by the relevant governing body) and "Allegations of cheating". The Austrian team in 1937 would be in the second subsection. Truscott believed that cheating had been proved, but that's his opinion (and that of some others too, of course) and the Austrian team were never formally found guilty of an offence. JH (
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21:11, 24 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Agree that there is a gradation of the violations of the 'rules' of the game and your suggestion may be the best initial distinction with respect to this proposed article. The overall list of categories of offences might better be reflected in the following:
Ethics and behaviour violations: violation of the ACBL Zero Tolerance policy, coffee housing, etc.
Irregularities: hesitations, leads out of turn, insufficient bids, etc.
Cheating by signalling or by other means.
The main focus should be the last category with subcategories as you suggest but a brief synopsis of the first two may also be in order. Repeated and deliberate violations in the first two categories constitutes an attempt to gain unfair advantage (intimidation, extracting information, watching for 'tells', etc.) and IMHO are (almost) as reprehensible as the third category. Even in the cheating category we could distinguish between:
'Whispers'
Accusations uninvestigated
Accusations investigated and without a verdict, conclusion or finding
Accusations investigated and found not guilty or 'not proven' to some standard of proof
Accusations investigated and found guilty or proven to some standard of proof
In the first launch of the article, I prefer to leave the listing style generally as is but with greater clarity on which category each incident falls.
This seems like a good approach. The most difficult incident to categorise is likely to be Reese-Schapiro at Buenos Aires, who were found guilty by the WBL investigation but subsequently not guilty by the BBL "trial", possibly because the latter used the standard of proof in a criminal trial of beyond reasonable doubt whilst the former used a less stringent standard similar to that used in civil lawsuits. JH (
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15:34, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
In thinking about it some more, we could use the two categories:
Rulings by governing bodies and
Allegations
where both are documented incidents being in the public domain, i.e. factual and verifiable. It would meet the requirement for a neutral point of view, I think. It would also let us deal effectively with Buenos Aires.
Newwhist (
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17:43, 25 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The titling of this section is inconsistent with that of the others, in that in this case it's the accuser rather than the accused who is named. Anybody scanning the article's contents list and not going on to read the section might assume that Meredith had been accused of cheating. But a succinct alternative title might be difficult to find. JH (
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15:24, 23 May 2016 (UTC)reply
An idea. Split "Incidents" into two sections. (1) Players accused of or convicted of cheating. (2) Players who have taken a public stand against cheating.
Another option is to title the entry as "Unspecified European pair c1950s". A bit clumsy but workable; it may even tease out who they were (fat chance though!).
Newwhist (
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21:44, 23 May 2016 (UTC)reply
Truscott, Alan (2004). The Great Bridge Scandal (2nd edition) Toronto: Master Point Press.
ISBN1-894154-67-3. 251 pages.
Reese, Terence (1966). The Story of an Accusation. London: Heinemann. LCCN 67075048. 244 pages. (US edition, 1967). New York: Simon & Schuster. LCCN 67017872. 246 pages.
References
The Bridge World, The Foster Bourne Report, January 1967, page 4-8.
The Bridge World, Why We Won by Terence Reese, January 1967, page 8-16.
The Bridge World, Clouds of Witnesses, January 1967, page 17-24.
Harold Franklin commentary (he was Chief Tournament Director at Monte Carlo):
"Tournament bridge made the headlines once more in the least desirable of ways during the recently played World Championship contest.
"One week earlier, top ranking pairs from fourteen countries had competed in the
Sunday Times Championship, a Tournament organised by the
British Bridge League, and though considerable prestige attached to the winning of it, the manner in which the game was played left nothing to be desired.
"From this distance and with the limited information available, it would be wrong to form definite views on the events at Bermuda. It is not, wrong. however, to suggest that the spirit in which the game is approached has a bearing on the spirit in which it is played.
"Elsewhere in the Quarterly a report on the Sunday Times Championship shows the two winners [viz.
Alan Sontag and
Peter Weichsel] in action. Random photographs taken by the Press show that almost all the players have individual mannerisms in their bearing at the table.
"The competitors in London found nothing sinister in every gesture and movement and left full of praise for the winners and the tournament in general. How admirable if this approach could be extended to the loftiest as to the least of all organised of bridge events."
I have no idea what Harold Franklin was alluding to in that article (quoted in full), nor can I find any of those "headlines". The article (1) suggests to me that there had been rumours or allegations at a Bermuda Bowl, (2) suggests to me that no robust inquiry had been made, and (3) strikes me as typical (
WP:OR!) of the complacent and patronising attitude of the English authorities at that time. EBU Quarterly ought to be
WP:RS - but that article strikes me as anything but, my gut tells me not to trust it. It contains neither specific allegations nor refutations, just innuendo. The Bridge World might provide more reliable information.
Narky Blert (
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00:42, 4 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Monte Carlo results from Le BRIDGEUR 6 juillet 1974 N°355 (information from Philippe Bodard on BW)
1) article général pages 28-29-30 “Suprématie italienne à Monte-Carlo”
2) page 39 : résultats
Classement :
1. Facchini-Zuchelli (Italie), 253,45%
2. Cohen-Katz (USA), 251,94%
3. Belladonna-Garozzo (Italie), 248,13%
4. Teverini-Vives (France), 241,02%
5. Mr et Me Gandini (Italie), 239,28%
6. Russel-Sontag (USA), 239,33%
7. Chagas-Assumpçao (Brésil), 239,12%
Two pairs for the price of one! Sontag's words can be read as implicating them both.
also from
Philippe Bodard at BW: "I can add : the same year (1974), Facchini-Zuchelli won another tournament with very important money prices (the most important money tournament in Europe because played every year) la “Coupe d'Or CINO DEL DUCCA”. The third most important tournament with money prices was Juan-les-Pins, but I dont know if Facchini-Zuchelli played this event (one thing is sure, there were not in the top ten)"
Barnet Shenkin states in his book Playing With the Bridge Legends (page 16) that the Italians (unstated but presumably Facchini-Zuchelli) won the 1974 Monte Carlo event. No inferences about any cheating.
Gianfranco Facchini and Sergio Zucchelli won the Sunday Times Invitational Pairs in 1974. This is not the same event alluded to; The Sunday Times Invitational Pairs was always held in London, around New Year.
Narky Blert (
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20:57, 11 November 2015 (UTC)reply
Reference needed that Ron Klinger wrote an article in Australian Bridge magazine which point-blank accused them of cheating. `
Newwhist (
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Tony Haworth, c1999
Tony Haworth,
c. 1999. Welsh international who fed a cold deck into a match. It was a previously-played Kelsey-Ottlik type hand, and several players recognised it. See David Gold's, Gordon Rainsford's and Tom Townsend's posts on
this BridgeWinners thread.
TH has served his penalty, and is now (October 2015) both playing and TDing (
this link is relevant, but includes nothing meaningful).
Haworth
I've drafted a section, and doubt I will have anything more to add. It could obviously be cut down if overlong.
Perhaps for a section discussing the way the authorities handle allegations: this case looks like a model of efficiency. The offences were detected on September 11, and Haworth's team disqualified the same day. His teammates cooperated with the investigation, and received financial compensation for the expenses they had incurred. A hearing was held on November 12, and the decision issued on November 23. This is all documented in the Bridge Magazine citation.
Narky Blert (
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16:16, 3 October 2015 (UTC)reply
Disa Eythorsdottir 2002
If she had a prescription, surely she could have substantiated it after the fact. Are we saying that:
she did not have a prescription
she had one and failed to provide evidence of it after the fact
had she taken the test and been found in violation, would her post event evidence of the prescription have been sufficient to avoid sanction
in the case of the point 3 above, would she have been sanctioned anyways for failing to get a 'prior' certificate?
I do not know of anyone that is aware of the exact rules in place for drug testing for WBF back in 2002. There are some public interviews with Disa from that period. I can ask her, but that doesn't make necessarily make it WP:RS. Compare the IOC response for drug testing on teams - if one member is later disqualified, the entire team is. I think you need to find a WBF source that will go on the record about what happened.
Nicolas.hammond (
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13:24, 4 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Done. Corrected. The current edition (August 12, 2016) of the text is internally contradictory as to who is dummy and who is declarer. Requires a reference.
Newwhist (
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13:50, 12 August 2016 (UTC)reply
Helgemo et al, 2009
Helgemo and others agreed to report a score for a match that was never played in 2009. The story is well known. I haven't done much research to find WP:RS.
"Tor Helness was not part of the two teams which got a one year suspension for a falsified match result (the match was never played, but the reported result made sure that both teams would advance to the next round of the Norwegian club championships)."
This incident involves a top World player and so should be included. Some of WP:RS may be in Norwegian, so any editors familiar with the language, please write up....
"Hearing was held fall national in San Diego when all three players were allow to present their case and all three played in the 2009 San Diego Fall Nationals." If anyone wants to research the NABC Daily Bulletins for details.
"After a two-day hearing in a Dallas hotel last week, the game’s governing body [WBF] declared that Michael Elinescu, 61, and Entscho Wladow, 71, had deployed subterfuge in the shape of a system of coded coughs to win the bridge world finals during a fiercely-contested tournament in Bali last year." Also: "In a judgment which demolishes the image of bridge as a high-minded pursuit unsullied by trickery, the WBF found the Germans, both medical doctors, had broken law 73B of the game."
the article reports that the German Bridge Federation (DBV) said its two star players were considering an appeal against the decision and there was an innocent explanation for their spluttering. In documents addressed to the WBF, the DBV said that far from cheating, its two team members had fallen foul of the humid Bali weather and an ineffectual air conditioning unit which had left most tournament players with a cough.
the article goes on to say "In a further letter, the German body said its own internal investigation had found no evidence of cheating. It added: “Dr Wladow and Dr Elinescu [affirmed] unmistakably to us that the allegation they are accused of do not apply and were not committed by them.”
the method allegedly involved coughing
they claim they are innocent
Commentary on the Bridge Winners website regarding the steps taken by Urich Wenning, President of the DBF: Reference:
Comments by David Cole at Bridge Winners Sep 22. "He tried to get the hearing of the case changed to a date where he could appear. Upon receiving the evidence he appointed a team of top German players to investigate the accusations and suspended the doctors. The players investigating all found that the doctors were guilty. The doctors were then banned for 10 years. The case is now going through the German legal system."
"If someone found a couple of timeline mistakes, those will be corrected in the printed version which will run in the October 9 Newsweek issue. I take my hat off for John Walters and all the work he put into this article. Bridge is such a good game!"
Alexander Smirnov and Josef Piekarek admit to ethical violations in previous events.
Piekarek and Smirnov state: "We have voluntarily agreed never again to play competitive bridge together and to take two years off from playing competitive bridge.”
Piekarek and Smirnov acknowledge to awareness of "whispers" about them
No specifics are given and the DBF is investigating, Sep 22
Accordingly, the DBF withdraws German team from BB 2015, Sep 22
stating, in part: *"Two members of the German Bridge Federation (DBV), Alexander Smirnov and Josef Piekarek, have admitted to violation of the ethical principles of bridge"
the WBF Credentials Committee rescinds its invitation to Polish players Cezary Balicki and Adam Zmudzinski to the 2015 Bermuda Bowl. No reason is cited.
the Polish team is permitted to play but without them.
Translation of Balicki statement by Cathy Baldysz on the
Bridge Winners site
"The time has now passed when the outcry surrounding our partnership can harm our colleagues, who I sincerely congratulate for winning the World Championship. I only regret that we were unable to participate in this success, although this is not the least of what I regret, since before we had even returned home we were lynched and sentenced by the Internet press. Even though the damage inflicted is now beyond repair and the end of our mutual career has become fact, I have to stand in defence of our long-standing partnership.
As our Chairman already pointed out, we garnered quite a few enemies, like those who lost to us in different events, those who felt we had taken spots that belonged to them or those on various international teams or the Polish National team. Without going further on this subject, I’ll get to the issue at hand. I strongly suspect that all the arguments against us were manipulated and calculated to appear in such a way that none of the readers would be able to verify them, for the long and painstaking work that would be required. This is how we have been treated by those accusing us. We were attacked three times after each preceding attempt ended in failure.
The accusation that most impacted subsequent events occurred just before the Bermuda Bowl, in which Boye Brogeland presented two matches with an analysis of 6 deals and on the basis of this information and without even a few days for analysis the WBF commission believed Boye and withdrew our invitation to the Bermuda Bowl. This accusation has already been greatly discounted. I suggest you read Krzystof Jassem’s article
“Rumour and Mathematics”, which in any case I feel lets Brogeland off lightly. Regardless of what conclusions you reach, notice how easy it is to manipulate opinions on the Internet.
When the first accusation did not deliver the expected result, the next attack was launched – on our mannerisms on opening lead. And here the method of operation was very similar. There were no analysed hands, intentionally chosen clips from the video recordings and no correlation to the leads made. Of course, no one bothered to check what the typical mannerisms are for us or many other pairs in stressful or tiring situations. This is exactly how players behave who have for their entire bridge lives filled out scorecards and entered the scores into the bridgemates. After analysing 336 deals from Opatija 2014, half of which we were on lead, you won’t see one hand, including part score deals, where a lead was suspicious or very lucky. On the other hand there are several deals in which we didn’t lead well in simple situations that cost us a lot of points. Take the deal against Brogeland, where I personally made a serious error from lack of knowledge about declarer’s distribution. Despite the lead of the ace of hearts and a club continuation, we managed to let the contract make, although that would have seemed impossible.
Poland – Norway
Deal 24
3NT
♠
K96
♥
AK
♦
853
♣
AJ985
♠
QJ72
N
W E
S
♠
A543
♥
QJ106
♥
43
♦
AQ
♦
K10942
♣
643
♣
KQ
Lead:♥A
♠
108
♥
98752
♦
J76
♣
1072
Result: -400
I ask for further questions, since the documentation of Opatija 2014 is incomplete.
The third attack came a few days ago. Here, in the face of forthcoming decisions by official bodies, the prosecutors did not even get the facts straight. They appointed their jury and tried to push through the revived theory of Brogeland’s. It came out just like they wanted it to, but look at the first two hands in their analysis.
Poland – France
Deal 27
♠
AJ5
W E
♠
8632
♥
AKQ4
♥
98
♦
A72
♦
84
♣
Q105
♣
K9843
West
North
East
South
CB
AŻ
—
—
—
Pass
1♣
1♠
Pass
1NT
Dbl
2♦
3♣
Kit Woolsey’s analysis:
3♣ close to the pass – a weak bid.
My analysis:
3♣ is weak, 2♠ would be invitational, I can’t have good clubs because I didn’t bid a non-forcing 2♣. The maximum for 3♣ is A109xx.
If Adam had read the bid as the accusers suggest as a super minimum, then why did he bid 3NT down three for minus 150? Of course, it’s not given in the analysis — as usual.
Additionally, Adam’s double, which is closer to the pass than my 3♣, was not properly analysed. He in fact had AJx AKQx Axx Q10x, or a 20-count, but pointing this out was not in the interest of those making the analysis.
Poland – Dania
Deal 26
♠ AKxxx ♥ A♦ KJxxx ♣ xx
West
North
East
South
CB
AŻ
—
—
Pass
Pass
1♣
1♥
Pass
1♠
3♣
Dbl
Kit Woolsey’s analysis:
1♣ — strong 16 +
1♥ — 54 odds or 4441 8-15
1♠ — pass or correct ♠/♣
X — spades and diamonds, pass would be hearts and clubs
The double placed at a distance suggests a maximum.
My analysis:
We have long played that for unbalanced hands the point count range is 8–17 and only for balanced hands do we pass over a strong club that is also over 16.
1♠ is not spades or clubs, but “bid your longest suit”.
The double means spades and diamonds 5–5; 15 – 17 (vulnerable); with a good 6–4 we bid a suit.
Pass would deny a maximum.
Conclusion:
Kit Woolsey, who took on our case for over a month, didn’t even bother to familiarize himself with basic sequences. He twisted his comments to support the theory he had formed. Of course, in the presented deals the finished auctions are not given. This is flashy proof in the same style as the accusations. I hope, that you will not allow yourselves to be manipulated by Internet sharpsters.
IMO a Wiki article needs to cover unsubstantiated and discredited allegations, which can illustrate the reactions both of players and of officialdom.
Narky Blert (
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20:24, 2 October 2015 (UTC)reply
distinctions should be made between an ethical violation and procedural and/or mechanical ones.
Bridge Winners blogs debating the issues subsequent to the appeals committee decision:
Posted by
Nigel Guthrie on the Bridge Winner website on topic ACBL Task Force Takes on Cheating
"The ACBL sacked the official recorder when he wanted to investigate a board-member and his cronies. The 4 assistant-recorders resigned in protest."
Posted by
David Babcock on the Bridge Winner website on topic Where do we go from here?
"There is a further aspect of any reform that IMHO needs to be discussed but hasn't been: how to ensure that anyone who is suspect and also happens to be in a position of power cannot avoid accountability by, for example, getting the recorder fired, as happened to Bob Rosen. The emphasis on privacy rights in the early stages of a proceeding is well motivated and certainly for the best in most circumstances, but IMHO this downside does need to be acknowledged and addressed."
Bart Bramley: 20+ years ago Bob was the National Recorder and I was one of 4 or 5 assistant Recorders. Over a period of about twelve months Bob noticed that there were several complaints about one player and decided to act on the accumulation of evidence. This is how the Recorder system is supposed to work. The problem was that the player was a member of the BOD, and, moreover, was potentially going to be President of ACBL. Bob convened a meeting of all Recorders during the next National, and we heard direct testimony from the player. We, the Recorders, decided unanimously to submit a report to the ACBL Board. Bob drafted a letter, which we all signed. Bob sent it to the current League President, with instructions for it to be distributed to the whole Board. But when Bob realized that the distribution had not occurred, he himself sent the letter to the rest of the Board. We were not on a vendetta against the player. Rather, our primary motivation was to prevent a potentially embarrassing situation for the Board and one of its members, by stopping a problem before it got worse. The reaction was not what Bob (or any of us) had hoped for. Instead of honoring our intent, the Board (through the President) brought charges against Bob for “abusing” his position as Recorder. A hearing was held at the subsequent National, and the result was that Bob was fired as Recorder. In support of Bob I immediately resigned in protest, as did several other assistant Recorders.
Bobby Wolff: Mr. Rosen was victimized by our esteemed Board of Directors when the EOC unanimously found a future Board Official guilty of a heinous bridge impropriety and when Bob appealed to the BOD to reverse their ridiculous, self-serving decision, not only was his plea declined, but he was handed his walking papers as well.
Jeff Meckstroth: I can attest to the statements about Bob Rosen. At the time he was the chief recorder for the ACBL. The other national recorders were myself, Bart Bramley, John Sutherlin, and Dennis Clerkin. All 4 of us resigned our positions in protest of the TOTALLY absurd ousting of Mr. Rosen.
Pat Mizell: More than a few years back, I got involved in bridge politics and was privy to some conversations that most don't hear. In the President's Suite at a major tournament a international player I knew quite well came to a member of the ACBL Board of Directors who was standing next to me with the following news-he had broken the code of a well known pair who had been under suspicion for a long time and was ready to file a formal charge of premeditated cheating. The Board of Directors member gave him a very simple answer–“they are friends of mine and if you ever utter one word about this I'll see that you are ruined”[1]
In the
attached a reference is made to "crude messages being left in toilet radiator caps"
what is this about?
Chico Marx
Posted by Jonathan Steinberg at Bridge Winners Sept. 23, 2015: "The Chico Marx clip from the 1930's is priceless!" made under a thread about and the Newsweek article by Walters on Boye Brogeland
what is this about?
Chico Marx
This refers to a scene in the film Animal Magic, in which Chico and Harpo outrageously cheat in a bridge game against Margaret Dumont's character and another player:
[1] JH (
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19:30, 19 May 2016 (UTC)reply
The majority of the initial material is sourced from my previous sandbox draft. It is in pretty rough shape but adequate to qualify for 'start' status IMHO. I would have preferred to incubate the stuff more but the momentum of interest is better served by publishing now. I expect some heavy opinions on the subject and will let those more intimately aware make improvements in this, a more public forum than my draft sandbox page allowed.
It will be extremely important to respect Wiki policy on providing reliable references for all asserted facts and to maintain a neutral point of view in the presentation style. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia not a blog for venting and accusing with one's personal views.
I will be taking the liberty of moving relevant material to this talk page in order to consolidate previous discussions amongst the editors who have previously been engaged in this topic. Some of these loose ends may be rubbish but that can be sorted out and deleted in due course; it is retained initially to ensure no useful leads are neglected.
Newwhist (
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16:05, 1 June 2016 (UTC)reply
@
Newwhist: - excellently done. I can't say the article is a pleasure to read, but that's solely for reasons relating to bridge and not to Wiki. I agree with both the "class C" and "high importance" ratings - and with your stressing the importance of
WP:BLP and
WP:NPOV.
IMO the best thing to do with loose ends and false leads is for another editor to mark them as dead ends with reasons, or for the original editor to strike them out. That preserves the history.
Narky Blert (
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21:58, 5 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Anti-cheating measures
I see that a lot has happened while I was away on vacation. Congratulations to Newwhist in particular on his excellent work. Would it be worth adding a short section on measures that have been adopted to try to prevent cheating? I'm thinking of
bidding boxes (already mentioned in passing) and screens. JH (
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09:04, 12 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Agree. First, each incident should have information about what measures were implemented as a direct result of the specific incident - probably not many that can be so explicitly linked but this would include warnings and interim measures such as putting blocks under the table. Second, an overview section on the topic as you suggest. Where would the section be located? After the incidents section? or part of the as yet incomplete 'Governing bodies' section? The list of countermeasures would include: the role of monitors, video and audio surveillance, statistical analysis of hands, changes to the Laws, procedural changes for the handling of allegations, investigations and sanctions. FYI, I have a draft outline of material and structure for the 'Governing bodies' section at
my sandbox here. It is a crude mind dump.
Newwhist (
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11:45, 12 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Italian Blue Team, cheating allegations
According to
Bob Hamman, as quoted by David Owen in his New Yorker piece "Dirty Hands" (which is referenced in our own article and is available online), the Dallas Aces believed that the Italian Blue Team was cheating against them. He reckons that the Blue Team had two great players (Garozzo and Forquet?) and one very good one (Belladonna?), but that the other three weren't much good, presumably implying that cheating was the only way to account for the team's enormous success. He suggests that hand gestures and the positioning of their cigarettes may have been used as signals. In the absence of any hard evidence or formal accusation, is it worth including a section on this? JH (
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17:21, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Not sure but a good topic if dealt with properly. The conjecture about the Blue Team cheating is out there but my personal sense is that they are more in the 'innuendo/allegations' category than in the 'found guilty' category; some pairs may be guilty but I doubt that the whole team would have been involved at any one time. Thorough research and solid references would be prudent on any treatment of the subject.
Newwhist (
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22:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)reply
New evidence in a thoroughly referenced book by Avon Wilsmore (2018) titled Under the Table demonstrates that the entire Blue Team was accussed on several occassions of cheating from early on in their careers. Additional details and references should be pursued. The material more properly belongs in the
Blue Team article. I will take a crack at it there.
Newwhist (
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18:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The Burguy tapes
This section previously contained the sentence "It is reported that the tape was lost and "no transcript exists.""; it carried a citation required tag citation needed. I myself had included the sentence when I launched the
Cheating in bridge article in June 2016. I have reviewed each of the three references originally cited and none contain that sentence. I am unable to find any reference at this time as to why that sentence was included. Accordingly, I have removed it.
Newwhist (
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18:24, 26 August 2020 (UTC).reply
Since the foregoing post, additional history of the article has been restored from archives. It shows that the source of the phrase comes from [
here ]. A review of the edit history shows that the phrase was taken out of context and it's removal is justified.
Newwhist (
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17:23, 12 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Schneider and Reithoffer
Heads up! I recently added a reference (The Guardian newspaper article of 11 February 1964 of which I now have a pdf copy) which is at odds with statements contained in the book by Alan Truscott, also cited as a reference. The book states no inquiry was held but the newspaper article states that an appeal committee was held and found that the allegation was "without foundation". Additional checking is required to clarify.
Newwhist (
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17:36, 12 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Some top players have been convicted of cheating online, Bertens, Upmark come to mind. They should be added. I am probably too close to the cases therefore someone else should write them
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