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Re: notability

Although holding a relatively junior rank, Jones is notable under WP:SOLDIER for three reasons:

  1. He played an important part in the Laotian Civil War;
  2. Made an important contribution to military science by propagating pioneering forward air control procedures in both the Vietnam War and the Laotian Civil War;
  3. And he authored, and had translated into Lao and Thai, the USAF Field Manual on forward air control.

Georgejdorner ( talk) 20:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC) reply

Sources for future article expansion

WP:Further reading sections are technically permitted and this one wasn't bad but they're generally a mistake. Unless Mr Dorner is going to hang around a curate the page, we generally don't have other experts who do and they can tend to bloat unhelpfully. Besides, anyone looking for more information on the Laotian conflict in general wouldn't look for these books. They'd look at our Laotian war articles. So at least my vote is to either move these books to those pages for inclusion in a #Further reading section there or to reïnclude them here as they're used to verify facts in Mr Jones's own article.

  • Churchill, Jan (2000), Classified Secret: Controlling Airstrikes in the Clandestine War in Laos, Sunflower University Press, ISBN  9780897452410.
  • Conboy, Kenneth; et al. (1995), Shadow War: The CIA's Secret War in Laos, Paladin Press, ISBN  0-87364-825-0.
  • Diller, Richard (2013), Firefly: A Skyraider's Story about America's Secret War Over Laos, Dogear Publishing, ISBN  978-145751-969-7.
  • Lerner, Joe (2006), In the Black, iUniverse, ISBN  978-0-595-40714-9.
  • Polifka, Karl (2013), Meeting Steve Canyon: ...and Flying with the CIA in Laos, CreateSpace, ISBN  978-1-49097-985-4.
  • Webb, Billy G. (2010), Secret War, XLibris, ISBN  978-1-45356-485-1.

 —  LlywelynII 00:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC) reply


I included the Further reading section because the books listed have NO direct references to the article, but can shed light on the complex secretive Laotian Civil War which remains little known. Contrary to the insinuations above, Charlie Jones is most noted for his service in Laos, and the Further reading section supplies background to his activities there. Georgejdorner ( talk) 23:13, 22 November 2015 (UTC) reply


Personal prejudice against Further reading sections doth not a consensus make. As there is a general consensus in favor of those sections, I have restored it to the article. Many thanks to Llywelyn for making it easy by preserving the listing here on the Talk page. Georgejdorner ( talk) 00:03, 18 October 2017 (UTC) reply