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here is a pre-order plushie of one of them,
here is some commentary on the game and specifically in 2 paragraph about the character's presentation, though it may not meett
WP:RS. [
This one does, but the commentary on characters isn't as much, but still there.
This site goes into more detail, even referencing characters breifly from Persona 3 to compare and contrast giving a level of analysis. Other ones from
this list probably also have info.
I'm looking at the (empty) Cultural Impact section. Does this page need its own Cultural Impact section? It seems like that belongs in the main
Persona 4 article (and is covered there by the "Critical Reception" and "Related Media and Merchandise" sections. I would be happy to be persuaded otherwise, though.
Energy Dome (
talk)
15:50, 30 December 2009 (UTC)reply
Excessive details about Narukami's behaviour in the anime could easily be deemed as
fancruft, so only significant traits should be mentioned (for example he is more straightforward when talking).
Tintor2 (
talk)
02:13, 13 December 2011 (UTC)reply
What's with the addition of more minor characters? There are some that never interact in the game and others who have almost nothing to talk about.
Tintor2 (
talk)
12:43, 14 January 2012 (UTC)reply
I only wrote them as preliminary entries because they exist in the game and have had speaking roles in the anime. There was absolutely no reason for you to remove them.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
20:49, 14 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Various reasons actually. How are these characters important for the game's plot and the other characters? Tanaka never interacts with the protagonist (he is already mentioned in
Characters of Persona 3 to begin with), Yuuta's already mentioned in Minami's section, Old Lady Shiroku and Master Daidara (who don't even give their names) are just for shopping purposes. Such small roles make them fail
notability and make them more suitable for sites for fans.
Tintor2 (
talk)
23:57, 14 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) only covers standalone content, by the way. No notability policy or guideline concerns content within other articles. Yuuta's section has been reincorporated into his mother's, Kaneko is gone from this page, but Old Lady Shiroku and Master Daidara (who don't have actual names as far as we are ever aware) do have some sort of importance as shop characters, and ehy are given speaking roles in the anime.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
00:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Shop characters happen to be important for the game's items, while they are already have their one-episode mention in the episode list (which are really short appearances). They could easily be labeled as
fancruft due to their lack of impact to the plot and/or other characters.
Tintor2 (
talk)
00:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Not really, I just cited the a guideline and just because they have voice actors does not make them notable (Ameno Sagiri doesn't have one) and you already proved it by removing Kaneko and Yuuta's sections. If we had to follow that logic, every single character in the series like "Gossiping student" and other would be needed. Also, everything about Tanaka is in
Characters of Persona 3.
Tintor2 (
talk)
00:33, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
WP:Fancruft is not a guideline. And they have voiced roles in the anime, they are named characters in the video game, and they are listed
here. Just because we do not have that much to say about them outside of their role in the video game and their spoken parts in the anime, does not mean there is going to be some sort of slipperly slope on the matter. And perhaps the Tanaka stuff can be removed here, but Old Lady Shiroku and Master Daidara should remain.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
00:40, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
The small amount of information within their sections already makes them stubs for the list. Even though they have voice actors and the official anime site has them, it does not mean they are important for the plot or other characters. Additionally, their only appearances are already noted in the episode list.
Tintor2 (
talk)
00:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
There is no such thing as a stub section. Stop applying guidelines and policies regarding articles as a whole to singular sections within a larger article.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
00:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Did I mention a guideline? I just meant the sections were notably short as they contain less than five sentences and don't have impact to other characters. Nevertheless, stub sections actually exist and that's why there's the
Expand template.
Tintor2 (
talk)
00:53, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
It does not matter how much we can or cannot write about these two particular characters. They are named. They have spoken parts in the anime. And they appear in the video game. That should be enough. And I am not going to continue going back and forth with you on this issue.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
00:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
And still no importance for them. Just because they appear in one episode in the anime with two or three lines does not make them more important. Moreover, you keep adding more minor characters in such a pointless format even though they contradict everything you say. An encyclopedia article is supposed to show what is important for the general reader, not every single character. If the use of three sentence sections is so necessary, the official site could simply be used as an external link.
Tintor2 (
talk)
05:15, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
The fact that the characters have no impact at in the game. This is supposed to be an encyclopedic article so information should important to the general reader. Their only in-game information just tells what are their shops about which is certainly not important. If they never interact with a character for something important, what makes their mention significant? Moreover, the characters' primary media is the game, not the anime. The manga also shows more minor characters, but there is no need to list each of them unless they are mentioned in others characters.
Tintor2 (
talk)
18:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Well I have not read the manga to add this information myself. All I know is that these characters make appearances in the anime and this is merely a list of characters of "Persona 4". It does not limit itself to being just about the video game because it has now gone multimedia.—
Ryulong (
竜龙)
19:28, 15 January 2012 (UTC)reply
@Tintor2: I get the impression that you do not understand what the word "encyclopedic" means. Removing legible information is considered vandalism by Wikipedia standards, refrain from doing so.
175.134.44.29 (
talk)
21:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)reply
Protagonist's name
With the release of Persona 4 Arena, there have been various sections that mention the main character as Yu Narukami, the name he has in such game and the anime series. Although in the Persona 4 Golden opening he is referred as "Hero" (for being the game's protagonist), Atlus' collaboration to the arcade card game
Lord of Vermilion Re:2 that includes Persona characters has the protagonist's name as
Yu Narukami. Should the section's title be changed to Yu Narukami and all mentions of "the protagonist" be replaced with "Yu Narukami" for consistency's sake? This is a bit different from the main character of
Persona 2 who already had Tatsuya Shou as a default name that could be changed (unlike in Persona 4 where there was no default name), so I was looking for opinions. Regards.
Tintor2 (
talk)
01:35, 29 August 2012 (UTC)reply
I cross-checked this a bit with the Anime and Manga project, but I feel that this article is taking Japanese translations a bit too far (there was a point where even "gas station attendant" had a nihongo tag). I understand how important "Investigation Team" is to the story, but there is no reason that we need a nihongo translation tag for it - or for the tarot decks, some of the persona names, etc.
I propose removing the translate tags for all of the following on the article:
General translated terms ("Investigation Team", "Seekers of the Truth", etc.)
Tarot cards
Western names, like Margaret, where the Japanese version is just a phonic spelling.
Personas not based on Japanese culture, such as "High Pixie" or "Isis"
Of course, we should keep the translations on actual Japanese names. Since this is a significant change, however, I want to discuss this over with people before
WP:BOLD-ing it into the article. ↢
RemorA ↣21:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)reply
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