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Oppose: It was split out because the material wasn't appropriate here - why should an article on a class go into detail on lower-level taxa - obviously not its job. Each order is certainly
notable, and it would be desirable to have an article on each one; until then, the list gives them a decent home, and perhaps also an incentive for the articles to be created and filled out with the detail they certainly deserve. That detail obviously wouldn't be appropriate here, any more than having them here was. I'll note in passing, pace
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, that
Millipede is very sensibly served by
List of millipede families, so there is certainly precedent within the
Myriapoda for organising taxonomic information decently. As for having the material here in this article, it's at best a poorly-structured (and poorly-cited) list, somewhat off-topic; at worst, a total distraction from the article's purpose, coverage of the group as a whole.
Chiswick Chap (
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20:38, 13 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Oppose: It makes sense to have content on the orders, either in separate articles or collected on one page such as
Orders of centipedes, separate from the Centipede article. I would personally favour separate articles for each order, but still prefer a seperate Orders of centipedes article over having the information mashed in to the Centipede article.
I think there is ample precedence for treating major taxonomic units discretely. I certainly don't think every clade or taxonomic node warrants its own article (the stub
Pleurostigmomorpha is extraneous and probably could be better discussed in a parent article, similar to how
Dignatha and
Progoneata are treated at
Myriapoda). Combined articles make more sense when there is a dearth of content for each subsidiary taxa, such that Wikipedia doesn't slide further into a mass of permanent stubs saying no more than "X is a species of Y described by Johnson in 1850." All 3 species of Floridobolus for example are treated under the same article, since only 1 species has significant literature beyond initial description.
--Animalparty! (
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00:08, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
Er, they don't belong. You would think it very odd, aka ridiculous, if the article on the class Birds for no obvious reason contained a list if sections detailing the attributes of the individual Orders of Hawks, Seagulls, Owls, Passerines, Cuckoos, etc. Subtopics, each for their separate articles, or perhaps, um, a list. This list of Centipede Orders, by the way, already has substantial content, and could plainly be expanded with drawings and photographs and accounts of their distinct anatomies, habitats, distributions and so on. They don't belong in the Centipede article.
Chiswick Chap (
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05:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)reply
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What to do with Pleurostigmomorpha
Two months ago, realized that
Pleurostigmomorpha (Pleurostigmophora?), which I created, was little more than an unhelpful stub providing primarily the morphological differences between the two subclasses (to wit, Pleurostigmomorpha and Notostigmomorpha, the latter of which comprises exclusively the
Scutigeromorpha). I moved this content into
Centipede#Internal phylogeny. @
Chiswick Chap reverted this edit, saying no thanks! Not having this here was exactly the reason, discussed at length on the talk page, for having the Order articles or list separately from here. I disagree. The merger discussion regarded content regarding the orders, this is the morphological differences between the two subclasses. Regardless, this content needs to be kept somewhere. I see three potential options:
I loved reading this article and getting to know more about the centipede! I had done a bit of research and found that beetles tend to be one of the prey for centipedes, here is an article on the Phengodes Laticollis to show that predators-prey relationship:
/info/en/?search=Phengodes_laticollis (E.kidest) — Preceding
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04:39, 28 April 2024 (UTC)reply