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Requested move 26 June 2014
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Greeks in the Caucasus →
Caucasus Greeks – Reflects how community is referred to by itself and in both popular and academic discourse, in both Greek and Turkish. Analogous to references to 'Caucasus Germans' NOT 'Germans in Caucasus', although Caucasus Greeks far more numerous than Caucasus Germans and have more extensive historical and cultural links with South Caucasus region. Caucasus Greeks also sufficiently distinct from other Greek communities, including Pontic Greeks, to justify use of this name
A Gounaris (
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11:19, 26 June 2014 (UTC)reply
I support this move in theory. The current title sounds more like itinerant peoples passing through or recent migrants, not a more autochthonous population such as this. However, if there are objections based on other factors, I defer to those. —
AjaxSmack18:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)reply
Shouldn't it be "Caucasian Greeks" with the adjectival form? We use "Pontic Greeks" and "Cypriot Greeks", not "Pontus Greeks" and "Cyprus Greeks". —
AjaxSmack01:59, 28 June 2014 (UTC)reply
You are right in a sense, AjaxSmack, based on the analogies you cite. However, the geographic designation is equally valid, as in (e.g)
Western Thrace Turks and even other ethnic minority groups from the Caucasus region itself, such as
Caucasus Germans or
Caucasus Jews. Designations including the adjective 'Caucasian' are probably avoided when referring in English to ethnic groups from the Caucasus because this has come to be used as a pseudo-scientific term for peoples belonging to the so-called 'white race', as used today especially in US police and criminal law terminology, and not necessarily to those from the actual Caucasus region. Consequently, 'Caucasian Greeks' etc would be very confusing and so should be avoided.
A Gounaris (
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The template states that there is an issue with names of villages appearing in several languages other than English. I have not been involved in writing any of this, but I find them extremely useful and believe they should remain in the article. The villages have sometimes changed names and sometimes they have disappeared from the map. Therefore someone may know their old name in Greek but not in English, for example. This list of names in the different languages makes possible the identification of a village. Until there is a better alternative, I think this section is particularly useful.
Ictinos4 (
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09:24, 21 June 2024 (UTC)reply