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For God's sake, I just created the article! Let me add some substance.
Brooklyn Nellie (Nricardo) 04:01, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)
Sorry, I was just
being bold. Didn't mean to interfere with your edits. If this is consistently a problem, you might try adding {{msg:inuse}}, which adds a prominent box (like this) to the page:
This article needs some serious work to make it encyclopedic. "The Four Basic Guilt Groups"? --
Misterwindupbird 10:36, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Do you even read Cathy? There was a four-book series on the four basic guilt groups. They are explained in the article. You gotta remember: this is an article about a comic strip, not Psych. 101.
Nelson Ricardo 12:37, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
I should not have to read the strip to understand the article! Hence the tag. I don't think it's badly written per se, but this is an encyclopedia article, and needs to be written in the language and style of an encyclopedia, while right now it ready like the preface to a comic strip anthology. If someone like me, who doesn't really know the strip, comes here to learn about it and ends up scratching their head and going "what the...?", I think it earns a "needs work" tag. --
Misterwindupbird 19:51, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Would it be POV to mention that this comic is commonly considered to be the worst nationally syndicated comic ever? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
84.65.133.76 (
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Yes, unless you give citations. If YOU personally don't like it, it's bias; if the 'National Society of Comic Strip Readers' takes a poll and that is the result, it's fair game. But you must give the source, and most administrators prefer a primary source.
CFLeon21:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)reply
I object to the recent reversion. I feel that the additions I made were a more factually accurate portrayal of the Cathy-verse (that is, the Cathy-Universe). User Nricardo is illegitimately substituting his own bias when he callously overrules what he so flippantly refers to as "vandalism". You my good sir have vandalized the truth with your lies and I, and, I am certain, Cathy Guisewhite herself, will not stand for such capricious and arbitrary behavior on an institution of democratic academia like Wikipedia. Listen to your concience for once and let the truth set you free.
72.181.35.4206:25, 9 January 2007 (UTC)Carl "Cathy" Winslowreply
Vandalism though it may be, your version of the article was funnier then anything that ever appeared in a Cathy strip. You should reprint it on Uncyclopidea or somesuch.
64.131.243.23905:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)reply
I added a note about Cathy's boss at one point sexually harassing her. This is in line with other notes about major characters. Please do NOT take this out without justifying why it should not be included. It provides information on Cathy's relationship with her boss and views on men in general.
4.142.123.22507:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)ericreply
I also removed the part about the reader's feeling that Cathy getting married was a breath of fresh air. This is a POV, many like myself feel it was the opposite. Unless you have a site for that like a poll.
4.142.123.22507:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC)ericreply
Role of Cathy's mother
"Bill Andrews — Cathy's rare father. Helpless bystander to Cathy's Mom" but then we hear that the mother is "an equal in her marriage to Cathy's Dad". Contradictory. Which is true? —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
86.131.85.241 (
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contribs) 2:35, 2 April 2007
How can the character of Zachary be aging slowly if his parent-characters met in an online chat? That's hardly been possible for long enough for Zachary to be a teen already (I mean, conceivable but unlikely in terms of the extensiveness of online chat to be sufficient to appear in a comic strip with the expectation people would know what it was). Obviously, other characters must age slowly but that one clearly ages either normally or rapidly. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
67.188.176.103 (
talk)
07:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)reply
List of Books
It seems to me the list of books for the Cathy Comic Strips stops at 2000. Is this correct? Did the publisher just stop publishing books? Or is the list incomplete?
99.53.169.153 (
talk)
08:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Theriboldreply
A quick perusal of Amazon does indeed make it appear that she has had no books of chronological strips published since 'Shoes.'" Struck me as odd too - but since she's well past her prime, and arguably exponentially less funny since her 1976 inception, not entirely surprising. - AgentSeven04:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)reply
I love the drawing style...it's so simple and uncomplicated...Is there a name for this in cartoon tech terms??? Mt grandchildren draw in this fashion...and they have no formal training...what is it???? —Preceding
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209.188.98.226 (
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23:13, 28 December 2010 (UTC)reply
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Oppose. While i have enjoyed the comic strip, it is not encyclopedic to give it preference over the basic, timeless, universal usage of the given name as being the primaryusage of the given name "Cathy". The given name came first and is not culturally bound as is the comic strip. --
doncram06:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Support. The user opposing this move seems to conflate disambiguation pages and articles. The question is whether there is someone or something else known simply as "Cathy" and notable enough to necessitate disambiguation. As with
Doug, the answer appears to be no.
Gonfaloniere (
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18:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)reply
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Oppose per
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. In fact, 'nearly everyone else' (see
pageview analysis) does expect to find the comic strip at
Cathy and the majority would be
astonished not to find it there. Note that even the redirect
Cathy (comic strip) get more views than the other two uses. Nothing has changed from the previous RM except the addition of
Cathy (TV special) (derivative of the comic strip), which also gets more views than the name page but far far fewer than the primary encyclopedic topic.
Station1 (
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00:02, 21 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I can see the astonishment argument, but the number of readers actually searching for information about the name "Cathy" is so small that I don't think it's a big deal to astonish them a bit, in exchange for getting the majority of readers to where they want to go.
Colin M (
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15:13, 23 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose - who in the world is typing in "Cathy" expecting anything? Likely only the people looking for the comics.
RedSlash21:12, 27 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Support as someone on the other side of the Atlantic where people think this would be the primary topic, I'm honestly shocked to see that argument. Page views are not a good indicator here: of course this has more page views. That's because it's inappropriately at the main article name, and primary topic doesn't just rely on page views. Even the comic strip itself lends to this argument: the only reason it can be one word is that everyone knows that Cathy is a common given name. Who cares about the length of the article, this would seriously shock readers if they were looking at it. I'd encourage whomever is reviewing this close to relist rather than close as no consensus if that is something they are considering, because additional in-depth discussion could be helpful in reaching consensus.
TonyBallioni (
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17:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)reply
of course this has more page views. That's because it's inappropriately at the main article name I don't think this argument really stands up to scrutiny. This page gets 20x the views of
Cathy (given name). Even if every reader of the name article had to go through the comic article to get there (which is very generous - generally most article visits are via clicking a direct link, rather than searching), how do you account for the other 95 out of 100 readers of the comic article? Even if half the readers seeking information about the name give up when they hit this article, and fail to see the hatnote link, it doesn't come close to making up the massive disparity.
Colin M (
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20:53, 29 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Speaking as a casual reader of Wikipedia who also happens to spend way too much time on it as a volunteer, I normally forget what I was browsing for when a surprise page appears. I doubt I'm the only one. The bias of this page not having a disambiguator is pretty strong.
TonyBallioni (
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01:24, 30 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Station1 and others.
Pageview analysis makes it pretty clear that the comic strip is the primary topic, at least in terms of usage, and is the article readers are most inetersted in. As a Brit I'm not familiar with the comic strip, but
WP:IDONTKNOWIT is an argment to avoid and
WP:BUTIDONTKNOWABOUTIT is not how we determine primary topics.
PC78 (
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17:52, 30 July 2019 (UTC)reply
Disambiguate. There is no clear primary topic between these two options. Note that "Cathy" also appears (although rarely) as a surname.
bd2412T02:54, 1 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The comic strip is an unfunny crime against humor, but it is long-running and popular, and there's no reason to think the overwhelming advantage it has in pageviews are misleading. Disambiguation is NOT necessary; the ship doesn't have an article (and might well never qualify for one), the special is already linked in this article, and a hatnote suffices for the given name link.
SnowFire (
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20:30, 1 August 2019 (UTC)reply
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