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Is there any reason to keep this fanciful Sanskrit etymology, especially unsourced? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.250.93.152 ( talk) 13:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
The "improved definition" says the same thing as the old definition, in denser language. It is not an improvement. I've merged the two versions, to stop the competing reverts. I should point out to the anonymous editor, however, that Catechetics is not actually the act of instruction itself, but the science of instruction. Mkmcconn — 16:27, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
The Catechism of the Catholic Church (see below) is the catechism that is most widespread use among Catholics today. It is the official Catechism of the Church. (No sources, but it's true!)
For Catholics obedient to the Pope of Rome (are you a catholic otherwise?), all the canonical books of the Bible (including the six books which do not appear in the Hebrew canon), plus the current Catechism of the Catholic Church or an approved compendium, constitute the complete and best resource for fully attaining to God's revelation to mankind. (This is clearly NOT roman catholic teaching; when the CC only accepts three on each other depending sources for understanding of the revelation: The Holy Scripture, The Sacred Tradition and the Magisterum (which is defined in the catechism as: "Bishops, with priests as co-workers... are authentic teachers, of the apostolic faith, endowed with the authority of Christ." pagph. 888) (So this is not the same thing as a catechism!)
Catholics believe that Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition are expressed by the Catechism (Not the catechism! "The Magisterium": the communion of the bishops togheter with the people) of the Catholic Church are both necessary for attaining to the fullest understanding of all of God's revelation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.67.174.43 ( talk) 22:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC).
The section on the Catechism of the Catholic Church is overlong, filled with non-neutral POV and purple prose, and overall is unencyclopedic. Just a few excerpts that I find somewhere on the scale of "questionable" to "ridiculous":
Let's set aside the sheer frequency of the word "excellent" in a passage that praises "strict absence of redundancy" for now... I've got no problem if the author is a fan of the Catechism, but this does not fit "a best practices model for the 21st century scholar's art." -- Kuronekoyama 04:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with you whole-heartedly on this matter and made the appropriate edits along with adding a bit of content. When I have more time I will try to enrich this section. --
A.Augustinus
Fidei depositum does not say that the Catechism is not for the laity. The Apostolic constitution is addressed to all the People of God. It says that the Catechism is presented to the whole Church. This Apostolic constitution appears at the front of the Catechism ( Runwiththewind 22:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC))
Can anyone expand/add information about this this entry? I believe this took place in 1898 and was the 'bringing' together of the non-conformist faiths with representations from the Congregationalists, Baptists, Wesleyan Methodists, Primitive Methodists, the Methodist New Connexion, United Methodist Free Church, Presbyterians, and Bible Christians. MBorrill ( talk) 06:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
I noticed an older 19th century catechism called the Doctrinal Catechism, which was commonly quoted in Catholic-Protestant polemics in times past, and which is still quoted by a few contemporary authors. It is perhaps notable and would maybe deserve to be included in this page or in a related stub article. [1] ADM ( talk) 07:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with the use of the "revision of the Westminster Shorter Catechism" as an illustration of the catechetical format of question & answer, but I believe a citation is needed -- especially since the answer to Question #2 is in direct contradiction to the original answer, which is:
"The Word of God, which is contained in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, is the only rule to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him."
Evan Donovan ( talk) 19:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Should issued through the century read the centuries? Autarch ( talk) 20:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't come across in the article that the 1566 Roman Catholic catechism for everyone was one of the suggestions for church reform made by Luther in his early years, and was a part of the counter-reformation. Probably the one that affected the man in the street most, as he intended. 86.42.215.188 ( talk) 20:59, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
much I agree with the statement, even an atheist heathen like myself might consider the leap from "sound down" to "indoctrinate" a little POV.
Also, looking back to see when it was added (i.e. whether is was a recent perhaps vandalistic addition) I saw it's been there since... http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Catechism&diff=prev&oldid=281047915
April 1. 2009. I think we've been had guys... 88.109.52.217 ( talk) 23:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
I propose that Ignorantia sacerdotum be merged into Catechism, under Catholic catechisms. I think that the content in the Ignorantia sacerdotum article can easily be explained in the context of catechisms, and the catechisms article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Ignorantia sacerdotum will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. JanetteDoe ( talk) 20:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
This entire section is bullcrap.
No citations, and the Zodiacal catechism quoted is from page 176 of Alice A. Bailey's book "A treatise on the seven rays: Esoteric astrology."
Bailey's work was dictated to her by her spirit guide D.K., a.k.a the Tibetan; she never claimed any physical-world material sources. Hence, utter bullcrap by encyclopedic standards.
I'm not deleting it yet because some of what is stated might be worthwhile info if sourced. Bustter ( talk) 23:47, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
The Vedas have historically been taught to progeny and passed along generations through sound, much before they were written down. I guess I'm going for the literal interpretation of 'catechism' here, when I ask if they should be included in the non-christian catechisms, or, given the staggering history, even discussed in greater detail.
While one argument against considering them as catechisms could be the lack of question answer formats - (the Bhagvad Gita notwithstanding): wouldn't any spiritual corpus play advocatus deus AND advocatus diablo in pondering over and clarifying these matters? How does it matter if done in an active voice or a passive voice? Moreover, any text that deals with philosophically heavy topics surely can't be limited to short and snappy answers. Where do we draw the line between short answers and short questions that make for conversational back-and-forth, and between 'long' answers that may as well be sermons? 220.224.246.97 ( talk) 09:18, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Several of the links leading from the Catholic catechisms to their online texts lead to a verifiably anti-Catholic (and personal) website. It would perhaps be ideal if alternative, neutral links to the texts of these catechisms be used instead, or at the very least if a page from a Catholic site were to be used. IMHO it's better than the current links we have now. 24.185.252.161 ( talk) 20:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Specifically the links for the Douay Catechism and the Catechism of Christian Doctrine. 24.185.252.161 ( talk) 20:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Consideration for an Eastern Orthodoxy section with at least citations referring to The Longer Catechism of the Orthodox, Catholic, Eastern Church (e.g. http://www.pravoslavieto.com/docs/eng/Orthodox_Catechism_of_Philaret.htm), would be helpful to improve the article.
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