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For the record, anyone looking up as obscure a cultural reference as Caspar Milquetoast will definitely enjoy the Tom Waits reference. Great stuff. —Preceding
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04:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)reply
Reorganize?
I propose that a different balance of this text ought to be found. Right now, the contents of this page mostly seem to belong at a disambiguation page for
Milquetoast, and while there is something to be said for the article "Caspar Milquetoast", most of this material would belong at an article (not yet created) titled The Timid Soul. Any thoughts on the best solution?
MURGHdisc.00:57, 23 November 2007 (UTC)reply
In my experience, if you move the content to the dab page, it will be summarily removed as content.
Page names aside, I think the split should be: a character/publication page, which also notes the common usage (with a link to wiktionary); and a dab page for Milquetoast (since there's more than just those 2 usages).
(scratches my head) Which seems to be what we have now. So, unless I am missing something, I suppose I: Oppose split, on those grounds. (Feel free to make the dab page, though honestly, the current hatnote should be enough.)
Your post above read as if there already was a DAB in place, (scratching my head) and not the redirect it was.. Now there is a DAB and this page is exclusively for the character. And yes, mostly it needs expansion.
MURGHdisc.09:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)reply
Note in the parentheses above: "Feel free to make the dab page" - I did note the dab page was a redirect : )
I also reverted your change. I felt it removed too much from the article. The key words "nervous stomach", in particular. (I thought about linking to
Nervousness - a redirect to
Anxiety; or to
Nausea or
Indigestion, but in the end none really explained the term well enough. I'm tempted to create the page
Nervous stomach, and have it redirect here : )
I did, however, merge all the term usage text. While much condensed, it should still convey the intent well enough.
I also added a hatnote so that readers/editors could actually find the dab page : )
A blank revert of an edit based on spot citing isn't an exercise in courtesy. Obviously I don't agree with your decision. What is relevant for this article is the history of the work and the character. Further etymology and floral definitions need to be referenced, and WP isn't a dictionary.
MURGHdisc.07:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)reply
"Spot citing"? You gutted the article.
As for whether it isn't "courtesy", see
WP:BRD. (I think it's fair to say that we've been discussing.)
But let's move on.
Anyway, I like your newest changes, except that I think that the paragraph should be two, since one deals with the name of the character, and the second deals with how that name has been used outside the strip.
Tom Waits refers to Milquetoast in his classic "The piano has been drinking (not me)" from the album Small Change (1971) "And the bouncer is a Sumo wrestler cream-puff casper milktoast".