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Edits by ip address 65.9.234.169 included swapping in a wrong link to the MTA board of governors, and a link (financial astrology) which is unrelated to the MTA or CMT. See here. -- Rgfolsom 14:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
The issue is not whether financial astrology is related to the MTA, or belongs on the wiki page dedicated to the MTA. What is at issue here, specifically, is that Rgfolsom has protected the wiki MTA page, due to his personal wish to prevent certain factual information from being entered with regard to the MTA library.
Following September 11, 2001, the MTA library was rebuilt chiefly through the selfless dedication of Daniel L. Chesler, CMT, who tirelessly solicited donations from publishers and members of the organization. As George Schade, veteran MTA member wrote on July 20, 2005: "Dan was pretty much responsible for reestablishing the MTA's library after its destruction on 9/11 and tirelessly worked for that end."
These facts are undisputed, as documented in the MTA's own publications (link) --
http://1pixelhost.com/Uploads/files/egqazj1mtbmwz3n5nzdo.pdf
Moreover, on the evening of May 15, 2004, at the MTA's 28th Annual Seminar at the Hilton Marco Island Beach Resort, Ralph Acampora, one of the founders of the MTA, stood before a full room at the formal Saturday night dinner, and publicly thanked Dan Chesler for rebuilding the MTA Library. Also on May 15, 2004, in front of a full audience during the dedication ceremony of the James E. Alphier Library, John Bollinger and Mike Epstein both publicly thanked Mr. Chesler for rebuilding the MTA Library. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ralphfag ( talk • contribs) 20:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
The article is about the MTA, not Mr. Chesler. If you want to write a Wiki article about Mr. Chesler, and mention his contributions to the MTA library, as well as his technical analysis contributions as a whole, that makes sense. Nobody is disputing the fact that Dan Chesler worked very hard on the rebuilding of the library (he was the library committee chair at the time). I also know of authors who contacted their publishers, and requested that the publishers donate full TA libraries (not just books they wrote) to the MTA after the September 11 attacks. That is not the subject of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sposer ( talk • contribs) 21:32, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
You say this article is about the MTA. Yet the author of this article feels compelled to include specific mention of the post-9/11 library rebuild effort, without giving proper credit to the only individual who has ever been specifically cited as being responsible for rebuilding the MTA library: Dan Chesler.
Any discussion of the history of the MTA library can not be factually complete, without giving proper and full credit to Mr. Chesler for being he chief architect of the post-9/11 rebuild effort.
Are you suggesting a new wiki article on the MTA Library should be written, in which Mr. Chesler is given proper credit?
I did not say a new wiki article on "Dan Chesler."
I said a new wiki article on the "MTA library."
Naturally, such an article would need to be linked to the current wiki article on the Market Technicians Association. 207.195.244.116 ( talk) 22:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
-- Rgfolsom 01:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
I suggested an article on Mr. Chesler, if there is merit (there are many well known technical analysts without articles written on them though, such as John Bollinger, Alan Shaw, Ralph Acampora, or the late John Brooks -- several of these gentlemen were among the founders of the MTA; I do not know what is appropriate for a Wiki article). I did not suggest an article on Chesler's work on the MTA library. The MTA article only mentions, by name, a few ex-Presidents, and the current President. It does not discuss the founders of the MTA, or well-known current or past members. It is about the MTA period, what it is and what it does.
-- Sposer 02:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Rgfolsom you're not helping yourself either, by spreading misinformation.
For starters, the SEC only recognizes the CMT level 1 and level 2 exams, and not the CMT designation. The SEC does not even care whether you remain a member of the MTA after passing level 1 and 2 of the CMT exam.
Unlike the other items you mention such as the Journal, the newsletter, the Foundation, etc, all of which were accomplished via joint effort of numerous individuals and committees, the rebuilding of the MTA Library was the handiwork of Dan Chesler. There were no other individuals charged with this responsibility. Therefore, it is not factually correct to say "the library was rebuilt through the dedication of its members" unless those other "members" made a significant contribution.
To resolve this discrepancy, one of the following remedies should be implemented:
207.195.244.116 ( talk) 04:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Please resolve this issue so that it does not escalate into an edit war. I do not consider this issue resolved until one of the four remedies listed above has been accepted. Thank you. 64.251.20.2 ( talk) 01:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
I have been following this discussion and would like to make the following observations regarding the debate surrounding the MTA Library.
This article is about the MTA, its mission and purpose. Or, to put it in Sposer's own words, "..it is about the MTA period, what it is and what it does."
Therefore any statement regarding the who/what/how/why regarding the rebuilding of the MTA library post-9/11 is not terribly germane or central to the article. A seperate article on the subject of the MTA Library is certainly a more appropriate place for such information. The MTA library has its own history, and is unique in many respects. All of this of information, including information on the post 9/11 rebuild effort led by Mr. Chesler, would make for a very suitable article on its own. As one editor has already pointed out, it would be appropriate to link such an article (on the subject of the MTA library) to the current article on the subject of the MTA itself.
As the MTA article is written right now, it states that:
"Following September 11, 2001, the library was rebuilt through the dedication of its members, and the many publishers who donated their technical analysis libraries to the organization"
This is misleading, as it overlooks the fact that, from top to bottom, every publisher who "donated their technical analysis libraries" to the MTA, did so due to the tireless solicitations of Mr. Chesler, who was soley in charge of this effort. In many cases, during this period of time, Mr. Chesler would report his progress in working with book publishers to the MTA email list, updating the MTA's members with information about new books he had secured commitments for. In many cases, Mr. Chesler was successful in not only replacing books that had been lost due to 9/11, but also in many new securing titles, some rare and expensive, which had never been a part of the previous MTA library.
As for "other members" being involved, this is also misleading. No MTA member has ever been recognized or acknowledged for contributing to the MTA library rebuild effort in any significant way, other than Mr. Chesler. It is wrong and innacurate to attempt to characterize the library rebuild effort as the work of "members" since this is simply not true. Had it not been for Mr. Chesler contacting, soliciting and in some cases begging dozens of book publishers, merchants and individuals to donate books, most of the titles now residing on the MTA library shelves would not be there. 198.172.207.43 ( talk) 13:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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I would like to request edits to the CMT Association page at the link below: /info/en/?search=CMT_Association#cite_note-1
Here are the proposed edits to simply update the information:
• Add CMT logo to the page (Reference: https://cmtassociation.org/)
• The word “organization” is spelled wrong in first paragraph of “History” section.
• In the second paragraph of the “History” section, change “work in second half of the 1980s.” to “work in the second half of the 1980s.”
• In the first paragraph of the both the “Mission” and “Members” sections, change “80 countries” to “85 countries”. (Reference: https://cmtassociation.org/technical-analysis/international-investment-professionals-seek-new-tactics-in-battle-for-assets/)
• In the “Members” section, change “Over 9,000 individuals” to “Nearly 5,000 investment professionals”. (Reference: https://cmtassociation.org/technical-analysis/international-investment-professionals-seek-new-tactics-in-battle-for-assets/)
• In the “Members” section, get rid of the link in the middle of the paragraph as it does not link to anything.
• In the “Members” section, change the last couple sentences to “Craig W. Johnson is the current president. Past presidents include Ralph Acampora, Phil Roth, Charles Comer, Gail M. Dudack, Mike Epstein, Bruce M. Kamich, David Krell (co-founder and CEO of the International Securities Exchange), Jordan Kotick, Fred Meissner, Robert Prechter, Alan R. Shaw, Larry Berman, and David Keller.” (Reference: https://cmtassociation.org/association/leadership/)
Tyler wood ( talk) 13:02, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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conflict of interest has been implemented. Request 1: Change member countries to 85 ![]() ![]() |
In the first paragraph of the both the “Mission” and “Members” sections, change “80 countries” to “85 countries”. (Reference:
https://cmtassociation.org/technical-analysis/call-for-presenters-around-the-world/).
Review the links at the bottom of the page as some of them do not work
Tyler wood (
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13:55, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Partially implemented
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00:43, 2 December 2017 (UTC)