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Wikipedia convention is that TV station articles go at their call sign, regardless of whether there's a more common brand name for the station. Bearcat 04:10, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
There are cases where "convention" can contradict reality, and this is one of them. Nobody, I repeat, nobody, other than TV nuts, uses the name CIVT to refer to this station. Yet here we are calling it exclusively CIVT to the point where a made-up logo was passed off as the official one. I would have moved CHAN too except that BCTV was already used as a redirect. Using callsigns might work for stations in the USA, but in Canada, where stations do not have to identify by callsign at all, it is a stretch to mandate their usage on Wikipedia. Kirjtc2 04:28, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it's a stretch; there has to be some consistency in naming. We can't have some of the articles in Category:Canadian television stations listed by call letters and some listed by on-air brand names, because that just makes Wikipedia look poorly organized. And unless you're planning to change the title of every single broadcast station in Canada that uses a brand name rather than its official call letters, there's no reason for BC CTV to be the isolated exception. Bearcat 04:55, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
First of all, I don't imagine Bearcat's proposing (or anybody would propose) that BC CTV not exist as a title. I'm sure the question is just whether BC CTV should redirect to CIVT, or vice-versa. The question is just about the canonical name of the station. My thoughts:
BC CTV should exist, and redirect to CIVT. Vancouver Television could also redirect there, and VTV, which will eventually be a disambiguation page, could point to it too. Samaritan 06:19, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I've made these changes, as of now. Samaritan 09:32, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The arguments made here are prefectly valid, but CTV British Columbia (and I'd go so far as to say the Global stations as well) are an exception to this rule. Unlike the USA, stations in Canada brand themselves in a totally different manner, and many use on-air IDs to the point where the average Canadian could not tell you what their call letters are. In fact, when someone comes to Wikipedia for info on this station, I can assure you that they'll be searching for BC CTV or CTV British Columbia, NOT CIVT. I'm not going to get into an edit war, but this is something people should consider before blindly making CIVT the main article. And to make a final point, would one expect to put **every** television station documented on Wikipedia under their call letters? Are we going to suddenly start pointing BBC affiliates to their G*** call letters? What about Australian stations? I doubt that even TVGeeks in those countries can tell you a BBC affiliate call letter without first thinking about it. Snickerdo 16:53, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The "BC CTV" logo was used for a brief time in 2001-2002. Currently, CIVT uses a dark-greyed CTV logo during it's newscasts. Also, The "BC CTV" logo, for a small period time was display on the building's exterior, and now there is the regular CTV logo there. Shouldn't this wiki page reflect "current logo"? On another note, the logo that is used on CHAN's wiki page is not what's used on air. Xm2631 03:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC) is not the logo that station uses
I don't know if you would consider "British Columbia's watching CTV channel 9" a slogan (although they don't say British Columbia, they insert a random Lower Mainland community in its place). I would think so. Would you?
i think that their slogan could be "Your Home, Your News, Channel 9", but for "BC's watching CTV etc.", I haven't heard that one
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The launch day for CIVT (or VTV as referred to on-air at the time) was not on September 22, 1997. That was a Monday. I suppose that was their first "broadcast day" beginning at 6:00am with their morning news programming. The actual launch day was on September 19, 1997 which was a Friday. To be precise: The station launched on Friday, September 19, 1997 at 5:55pm. [ [1]] I can not recall the airings on September 17th that this website writes. Moonlightfocus ( talk) 09:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)