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This is to initiate the discussion to propose that this article be merged with Varg Vikernes. Dryfee ( talk) 02:53, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
I think that the name Burzum comes from "orcish" as created by J.R.R. Tolkien, meaning "darkness". Most famously the last line of the ring inscription reads, "agh burzum ishi krimpatul", and in the darkness bind them. I'm not sure however if this is simply a coincidence- and I know absolutely nothing about this project. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalzay ( talk • contribs) 15:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
That is Varg's intent. -P.
Can anyone find any information on a Burzum reissue? I can only find the Misanthropy reissue with the Aske EP in 1995. Every other source states that it is "rare" because the album had never been re-released. -- Death666 18:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
can someone please have actual information about the burzum music, rather than just talking about varg's beliefs and the church burnings and the murder of euronymous? fair enough, that stuff needs to be mentioned, but this article is about "BURZUM", therefore, it should be about the album releases, and the musical style of the band. not JUST the history of varg. i personally think that all the information on varg should be on VARG's page, and leave the music information on burzum and add some more! Okram 0915 March 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 04:09, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed the 'Live' from the "Live and Compilations" section as Burzum never performed live and none of the listed releases (to my knowledge) claim to have any live recordings.
-Actually there are several bootlegs that claim to have live tracks. the onlty one im familiar with simply had tracks from the pre-s/t album demo's
Are bootlegs needed?
Why is burzum not a band? Could someone please put a little bit more information in there. Why is burzum not a band? -Soyweiser
Should this really be in the Neo-Nazi category? The music never really had a specific Nazi message. Isolationist maybe but Neo-Nazi? Jackliddle 23:24, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I don't think the music is objectively Neo-Nazi. -- Rapunzel 08:04, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
The nazis (National "Socialists") were not, in truth, socialists but conservative state capitalists. It is flawed to accept the party's misappropriation of the humanist political philosophy as gospel. Ideals central to socialist thought were not only neglected but in direct contrast to nazi objectives. Vikernes isn't the brightest crayon in the box and I don't suspect he has ever read or understood Marx. His attempt to argue that an opposition to socialism means one cannot be nazi-sympathetic demonstrates his "intelligence".
The intro says Burzum was formed in 1987, while the body says it was formed in 1991 after a series of other bands. -- Delirium 06:45, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
I believe that was the time when he was actually active with the band, there were no Burzum releases until 1991 even though it might have begun in 1987. -- aenimated
The band was formed in 1987 [2], the first release wasn't until 1991. He revived Uruk-Hai in 1991. The band was basically "on-hold" when he was with Old Funeral. -Reaper-
Sources on this subject are almost universally questionable. However, as I understand it, Vikernes was never convicted of Arson. He is in prison for the murder of Eronymous. The Fantoft Kirk, which he photographed the ashes of for his second album "Aske", was set fire by a 16 year old female fan of the group. Vikernes certainly instigated this; in his trial for Eronymous' murder he claimed he was building an army of church arsonists, and that he couldn't be stopped. I think the most they legally have on him is "Conspiracy to commit Arson". He never actually set fire to a church.
It's debatable whether he actually set fire to any of the churches, but they never convicted him of this. -Reaper-
Varg was born simply Kristian Larsson Vikernes. Kvisling was legally appended to his name later after varg took a profound liking to Vidkun Quisling, the Norwegian fascist.
Two sentences from the article: "Varg Vikernes expects to be released from his sentence early, around August 2006, and intends to continue Burzum." — "He will not continue the band when he is released and has disavowed himself from the black metal scene entirely." Which is it? — Quirk 13:59, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
I tagged this as {{contradiction}} because of the conflicting statements about Vikernes' neonazism - it'd be nice if someone could clear that up once and for all. -- Schnee ( cheeks clone) 14:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
"Vikernes is not a nazi as lots of people once called him. The pagan ideals that he follows may be a bit similar to nazism but have no connection to them what ever since paganism was around long before nazism was. Varg has stated on burzum.org that he laughs at people who call him a nazi because it is simply not true."
should be reworded, and better integrated into the article, right now it sticks out like an awkward thumb, there are no sources and the sentences are poorly constructed.
This is what he says in A Burzum Story: The Nazi Ghost
I copied this from above, to clear it once and for all indeed. Darksteel 12:05, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
The nazis (National "Socialists") were not, in truth, socialists but conservative state capitalists. It is flawed to accept the party's misappropriation of the humanist political philosophy as gospel. Ideals central to socialist thought were not only neglected but in direct contrast to nazi objectives. Vikernes isn't the brightest crayon in the box and I don't suspect he has ever read or understood Marx. His attempt to argue that an opposition to socialism means one cannot be nazi-sympathetic demonstrates his "intelligence".
And I copied this from above because your comment "which is basically what nazi's are" is both unacademic and inaccurate.
What about the swastikas on the cover of this album. If Varg is not a nazi and does not follow nazi ideollogy, then why is there a guy dressed as a nazi? Is he being murdered or what? Dexter prog 22:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Emocore is listed in the genre box. Is this accurate? I'm not terribly familiar with the band but this seems more than a little suspect. Unless someone confirms that Burzum is in fact an emocore band, I will assume that this label is vandalism and remove it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.238.170.154 ( talk) 20:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC).
No, they're not. XdiabolicalX 10:46, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate to indicate which album Samoth played bass on? Shplongl 16:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Should this article really be "within the scope of WikiProject Biography"? Isn't that what Varg Vikernes is for? 80.202.209.162 ( talk) 16:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
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I'm getting rather bored of the genre warring on this article. I don't massively care about the inclusion of "ambient black metal" thing, but if we're going to have it, can we have a reliable source for it. Google turns up a bunch of hits, but the first hit was Anus.com which is always a worry. I'm personally of the opinion that the subgenre has no notability, but if you can find something in, say, a print source then feel free to stick it back in. Until such a source appears, please refrain. Blackmetalbaz ( talk) 21:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I can't believe someone missed that edit. A vandal removed a whole section from this page (one that was well cited I might add) and replaced it with a comment about Burzum sucking penis or something. That comment was removed but NO ONE put the section that the vandal removed back in to the article. That was one year ago people. I would expect more from some of the users that edit this page. I've edited wikipedia for a long time (this is just one of my anons) and I must say that this was an atrocious mistake. 67.187.245.33 ( talk) 22:34, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I believe it has been mentioned in Until_The_Light_Takes_Us and here he says " I didn't use a guitar amplifier at all, but instead used only the amplifier on my brother's stereo " 92.229.234.34 ( talk) 12:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm new to wikipedia. I didn't check the talk page before I made an edit, I should have. I put in that Burzum has been criticized for helping popularize the genre of national socialist black metal (NSBM), which describes Burzum as an important influence on NSBM. I made a link to the wikipedia article on NSBM and to an outside source. I am not saying Burzum is nazi music. Readers of the article can read the links and the arguments and make up their own minds. It is important that readers know about the controversies over Burzum, however, linked to NSBM. Otherwise readers will have little to no sense of the political matters related to the band. My boyfriend is a big Burzum fan because he likes the sound, he was surprised to learn about the controversy. He's against national socialism but is still a fan of Burzum. He is why I decided to put this up. He was too lazy to do it himself. Ellabaker July 21, 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 17:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC).
I put that content back in along with a thing saying that people should go read the entry on national socialist black metal if they want more on that controversy. Your opinion that the claim is false is subjective - by the definition of the word opinion. If you want to dispute the point, provide counter evidence. I didn't that Vikernes was influenced by NSBM, I said he influenced the genre. That's what the web site says. You also don't present any evidence that the web site reference is "opinionated" in the sense that it's not credible, you just offer your opinion that the site is "opinionated." The NSBM wikipedia entry goes into more detail about Vikernes's role in shaping that genre. Did you read that and do you dispute the claims there? If so, then you should present counter-evidence so that readers will get to hear both sides. Also, if you do disagree, then that's evidence that there is in fact a controversy over this. Ellabaker August 27, 2010
Okay, I just read the wikipedia article on Vikernes, the one you recommended. This article is very clear the Vikernes did in fact identify as a national socialist for a time. That supports the point that influenced the development of NSBM. Here are some quotes from the wikipedia article on Virkenes: "According to Goodrick-Clarke, "while in jail, Vikernes began to formulate his nationalist heathen ideology using material from Norse mythology combined with racism and occult National Socialism." Goodrick-Clarke bases this account of Vikernes' beliefs on some articles that Vikernes had written for the short-lived "neo-Nazi magazine" Filosofem, published by Vidar von Herske. (...)After his conviction, Vikernes began identifying himself as a Nazi. The Encyclopedia of White Power describes him as "busy promoting his Odinist and National Socialist philosophy from behind bars." In a July 2005 statement on his website, titled "The Nazi Ghost", Vikernes states that although he "occasionally used the term 'nazism' to describe [his] ideological foundation", he no longer describes himself as a 'Nazi'." Notice that I never said Vikernes was a nazi or that Burzum was nazi music. Here's what I said: "I am not saying Burzum is nazi music. Readers of the article can read the links and the arguments and make up their own minds." Ellabaker August 28, 2010 —Preceding undated comment added 06:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC).
What's the point of the enclosing quotes? -- AnonMoos ( talk) 20:16, 5 February 2011 (UTC) Because Burzum has no official logo, it simply is the name written in different fonts. The old writing is often considered as the logo, yet Varg did not intend it. -- 88.152.80.106 ( talk) 13:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
Originally there was written that Burzum started to play in 1991, but I've corrected writing that started with the name Kalashnikov from 1987 to 1988, then was renamed into Uruk-Hai from 1989 to 1990, and them was finally recalled Burzum in 1991. I wrote all the necessary proofs, taking them from Burzum's official biography in his site. If you prefer to be sure, you can check reading the first part of the biography. HumanFactory
have searched and haven't succeeded in establishing this record's notability – besides, being an obscure compilation album, it is unlikely to ever grow much more than a stub. Lachlan Foley ( talk) 05:01, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
Varg Vikernes never said that he was ending Burzum. He said that he saw music as secondary to survivalism, meaning that Burzum is on the "back burner", so to speak, or on hold. There is still new music in his videos, hinting that he is still writing songs for Burzum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iron Wizard13 ( talk • contribs) 05:38, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
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Burzum's STILL listed as NSBM even though the very same wiki article plainly states that the band/project's lyrics are entirely apolitical. jfc. this is why nobody takes wikipedia seriously. Calling Burzum NSBM is a factual error people learned to stop making in the 90s, try to catch up.
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Change "2009" to "2008" in description photo. Photo was taken 26 August 2008 according to source https://adagamov.info/2893915.html?rfrom=drugoi ("In this family visitation room at Tromso prison, I spoke with Varg last August.") Kingofthedead ( talk) 01:22, 7 December 2020 (UTC)