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Why the reversion to the previous inaccurate page? As the Chairman of BASICS I strongly object to a Wiki page being hosted that containes a very significant number of inaccuracies regarding the British Association for Immediate Care. BASICS HQ ( talk) 16:29, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Good evening, I was previously logged on as BASICS_HQ having joined last evening on finding the BASICS page which contained inaccurate and misleading information. You have now rejected my changes and rolled the pages back so that once again misleading and wrong information is provided, you will note I fully referenced my edit to support the accuracy of the page. The various rules are misleading and far from transparent only becoming notified once an admin has decided you have infringed them which is most frustrating and frankly unfair. The page urgently needs revision to reflect the true role and function of the Association, please advise. AEK1961 ( talk) 19:04, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
In so doing I should explain some of the concerns that underpin the current page. The original author(s) habve mistakenly muddled different BASICS organisations within this listing: BASICS as the focus of this article is a registered charity as cited but is not a limited company. This seems to be drawn from mistakenly identifying a separate legal limited company (& not a charity) BASICS Education with BASICS.
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Infobox - Limited company PLEASE REMOVE, does not apply (see Charity Commission registration https://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithoutPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=276054&SubsidiaryNumber=0)
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Infobox - leader_title3 = Chair of Trading & Education- PLEASE remove, this is a seperate limited company NOT PART of BASICS the charity.
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Infobox - leader_name2 = Dr Andy Pountney (Please include professional title)
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Infobox - leader_name3 = Peter Holden (PLEASE remove, this is a seperate limited company NOT PART of BASICS the charity.)
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Infobox - affiliations Plainlist. Please remove - this is incomplete list, I would suggest that a full list be provided within the article
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Infobox - Many Air Amblances (This is untrue, only one Scheme with a HEMS service is affliated - MAGPAS Helimedix, others have individuals working for them who are BASICS members)
BASICS also encourages immediate care schemes to strengthen and develop co-operation between schemes providing immediate care and the statutory emergency services
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and to raise standards of care and training. This includes through the exchange of information and cooperation. (THIS REFLECTS THE WIDER ROLE OF BASICS AND WHEN TAKEN IN CONTEXT WITH THE NEXT EDIT SUGGESTION MAKES BETTER SENSE)
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BASICS as an organisation does not in its self provide immediate care, this is undertaken by its affiliated schemes. BASICS is also a membership association and this was reflected in its change of name from the BRitish Association of Immediate Care Schemes to the British Association for immediate Care in 1980 (REF: https://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityFramework.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=276054&SubsidiaryNumber=0
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Information to be added or removed: region = Nationwide ( United Kingdom) Explanation of issue: see Charity Commission registration, BASICS is registered with the Charity Commission as operating in England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland References supporting change: https://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Showcharity/RegisterOfCharities/CharityWithoutPartB.aspx?RegisteredCharityNumber=276054&SubsidiaryNumber=0
— Preceding unsigned comment added by AEK1961 ( talk • contribs) 18:49, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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22:58, 2 January 2019 (UTC)Thanks. the issue is quite simple. As a charity based in England we are registered with the Charity Commission for England and Wales,our entry states that we are also registered for our activities in Scotland and Northern Ireland ref: http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0. the web site defines its regions by locality if someone is registered forinstance as working in Kent, or as England if working in England, if working in England and Wales and the rest of the UK then only states Scotland and Northern Ireland but the map shows the extent of our registration - England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AEK1961 ( talk • contribs) 13:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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1. Limited company - BASICS in common with other organisations has a number of interests and subsidery activities, this is clear on our Charities Commission page ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0) which states that "this charity has one or more trading subsidiaries'. These are both registered as separate Limited companies at companies house ( https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03553177 and https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03555825) but are not registered as part of the charity - hence it is false to state that BASICS is a Limited Company, it is not. The footer mention is because in common with other organisations one website represents the entry portal to all of our combined activities. 2. That BASICS does not provide clinical care, this being undertaken by its affiliated schemes. BASICS is clearly shown to be an umbrella organisation on the Charities Commission website ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0). Further the independant status of our schemes as registered charities in their own right demonstrates this for example - LIVES ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1098364&subid=0) WM Care Team ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1129027&subid=0) North Staffs BASICS Doctors ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1044785&subid=0) etc. Additionally, our own website makes our role clear, nowhere does it describe that BASICS delivers clinical care but rather fosters/supports etc this via our affiliated Schemes ( https://www.basics.org.uk/about-us/). Trust this clarifies. 3. Andy Pountney - Dr Pountney has, like you, worked hard to achieve his professional title. 4. BASICS operates across the UK - To state that BASICS operates only in England is wrong. As a charity based in England we are registered with the Charity Commission for England and Wales, however, our entry states that our activities are also in Scotland and Northern Ireland ref: http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0. Referring to our website information on affiliated Schemes shows activity in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland ( https://www.basics.org.uk/schemes/), as you will appreciate I cannot share membership details due to GDPR but we also have a number of individual members domiciled and working in all of the non-English Regions.
Thank you AEK1961 ( talk) 14:37, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you for recognising that BASICS is a UK wide charitable organisation.
1. The British Association for Immediate Care (BASICS), BASICS Education Ltd and BASICS Trading Ltd are three entirely separate legal entities each individually registered with the appropriate UK authority. BASICS is a registered charity ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0), it is not a Limited Company. BASICS Education Ltd is a separate registered limited company, and not a charity ( https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03553177). Similarly, BASICS Trading Ltd is also a separate registered limited company that is also not a charity ( https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03555825). To therefore refer to BASICS as a limited company is factually inaccurate both by title and legal definition. 2. That BASICS does not provide clinical care, this being undertaken by its affiliated schemes. BASICS is clearly shown to be an umbrella organisation on the Charities Commission website ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0). Further the independant status of our schemes as registered charities in their own right demonstrates this for example - LIVES ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1098364&subid=0) WM Care Team ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1129027&subid=0) North Staffs BASICS Doctors ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1044785&subid=0) etc. Additionally, our own website makes our role clear, nowhere does it describe that BASICS delivers clinical care but rather fosters/supports etc this via our affiliated Schemes ( https://www.basics.org.uk/about-us/). an umbrella organisation, we support and coordinate the affiliated Schemes. Each of these, as demonstrated by the examples previously given, are separately registered charitable organisations with their own board of trustees ie they are not owned or managed by BASICS. Direct care is delivered by these schemes and to do this they have to be registered with the UK's Care Quality Commission or taken into the governance framework of the relevant Ambulance Service. BASICS does not, has never and will not be responsible for the provision or delivery of patient care. In this respect, the regulatory term 'umbrella organisation' defines an overarching association or organisation that represents the wider interests of its affiliates ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0). To therefore claim that BASICS delivers care is misleading to its role and the role of the affiliated Schemes. 3. I do not follow your logic, throughout Wikipedia there are countless examples of individuals receiving acknowledgement of their professional titles ie Dr Prof etc. With respect, the rules governing Wikipedias internal working are confusing and far from transparent to outsiders. AEK1961 ( talk) 17:47, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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My apologies if this is considered inappropriate - I am not sure whether previous questions and my replies contribute to the editorial process or given the lack of response over 24-hrs means I need to re-propose the changes with the further information required.
1. In the infobox the term limited company remains. From my editoruial submissions yesterday on this matter the text of the first paragraph has been edited to recognise that BASICS is a charity and that the two subsidary and completlyy seperate companies are the Limited companies. Can the "limited company' label be removed from the info box to complete the edit. The British Association for Immediate Care (BASICS), BASICS Education Ltd and BASICS Trading Ltd are three entirely separate legal entities each individually registered with the appropriate UK authority. BASICS is a registered charity ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0), it is not a Limited Company. BASICS Education Ltd is a separate registered limited company, and not a charity ( https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03553177). Similarly, BASICS Trading Ltd is also a separate registered limited company that is also not a charity ( https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03555825). To therefore refer to BASICS as a limited company is factually inaccurate both by title and legal definition. 2. Edit the section header 'Local Application' to 'The role of the affiliated Schemes' - this would remove much of the inference that BASICS directly provides clinical care. 3. Please further edit the text to remove the inference that BASICS delivers direct clinical care, we do not, we are an umbrella organisation, who supports and coordinate the affiliated Schemes. Each of these, as demonstrated by the examples previously given, are separately registered charitable organisations with their own board of trustees ie they are not owned or managed by BASICS. Direct care is delivered by these schemes and to do this they have to be registered with the UK's Care Quality Commission or taken into the governance framework of the relevant Ambulance Service. BASICS does not, has never and will not be responsible for the provision or delivery of patient care. In this respect, the regulatory term 'umbrella organisation' defines an overarching association or organisation that represents the wider interests of its affiliates ( http://beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=276054&subid=0). To therefore claim that BASICS delivers care is misleading to its role and the role of the affiliated Schemes. 4. In the 2nd sentence of the opening paragraph amend 'The organisation relies on volunteer medical professionals and allied health professions to . . .' to read 'The organisation relies on volunteer medical, nursing and allied health professions to . . .' This reflects the role of nurses who as a profession are recognised outside of the grouping 'allied medical professionals' as indicated by the pages own in text link. 5. Edit the text 'BASICS can supplement the skill set available at scene with a medical doctor' in the final sentance of the section Local applications to 'BASICS can supplement the skill set available at scene with a medical doctor, nurse or critical-care paramedic'. (NB. it is important to specify a critical care paramedic as the skills brought are always above that of standard paramedic care) - this change is supported by the information on the page itself where it states that Shemes are using all these groups in the final sentance of the history section.
Thank you
AEK1961 ( talk) 17:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you
The issue is not with HCPs, that does incl nurses. The term used is allied health professionals. If you follow the link from that within the page it is in itself self explanitory ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_health_professions). As can be seen, certain healthcare professions are recognised within this framework, nursing is not one of them. Like medicine, nursing is an autonemous profession. Nothing self promotional about this, simply a matter of accuracy. ——- — Preceding unsigned comment added by AEK1961 ( talk • contribs) 19:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
My edits keep being reverted where they detail the doctors responding and who was the medical incident officer at each scene. this is important history, relating to a significant event, I included it appropriately referenced. It is hard to significantly reword a list, but even when I did this it was deleted. TheMouseMen ( talk) 17:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
The logo you show is outdated & has not been used for 3 years. Hava a look at www.basics.org.uk to confirm 90.202.247.228 ( talk) 08:37, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
The introductory text is out of date. The two trading subsideries were dissolved a couple of years ago. 90.202.247.228 ( talk) 08:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Have they disbanded? Tannim101 ( talk) 23:02, 29 November 2022 (UTC)