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"Overall, as a starter, Brady is 29-17 (.630) against all opponents and 13-15 (.460) against teams that finished the year with non-losing records." This stat is not kept for any other players; and it is not kept officially anywhere. The article could go on forever slicing and dicing records to make whatever particular point someone wants to make. It doesn't belong here as it is not an encyclopedic piece of informaiton. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Red375 ( talk • contribs) 17:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC). This was probably a cumbersome attept to point out that Brady hasn't had great success in "big games". It's a legitimate point, as this page reads more like a promotional flyer than an objective encyclopedia entry. I've supplied a more nuanced qualification, as below: While Brady is 29-17 (.630) overall as a starter, he has evoked comparisons to Peyton Manning [1] due to his lack of success in "big games"[2]. Doctoru2 21:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC) Brady's overall record, as stated, is indeed erroneous. ND went 19-4 during the regular season with Weis in '05 and '06 and 19-6 if bowl games are counted. And comparisons to P. Manning are fair, to a point. ND definitely should have beaten USC in '05 (the defense gave that game away) and ND did beat Mich. in '05, which was ranked #3 at the time. Additionally, ND's record in bowl games has been horrendous this past decade, including years prior to Brady.
On other players' pages, it says whether they won or lost their bowl games. Should I do that here, or is there some reason not to? SuperToad64 18:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if this section should be included at all, but I'll fix it up anyway. All of Notre Dame's rivals should be there as stated in this article, also, Brady only played a few series against Michigan and Michigan State his freshman year as shown here and here, so those games shouldn't be counted. Just my two cents. Phydend 04:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
We might want to improve this article by providing:
Lmcelhiney 13:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
This article was very disjointed and poorly written. It jumped around with time references and was almost incoherant to read. There was more than one sentence that literally made no sense as written. I cleaned up the article a little bit to make it at least make sense and have some semblence of order. I think its still in bad need of some revision. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.210.107.101 ( talk) 03:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
Brady Quinn has stated as fact that he would like to play for the Cleveland Browns and I put that in this article earlier. It was reported on Sportscenter for 2 days straight now. I don't know who deleted that info but they shouldn't have. If you have a citation for that information, then add the information and the citation. Just hearing it doesn't make it citable. Lmcelhiney 01:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC) I put one earlier but someone put it was from a "fantasy football" site which is completely untrue. People editing this aren't doing a great job at it, aside from the people putting blatant nonsense. It is common knowledge by anyone who watches ESPN that he wants to play for the Browns. It is also common knowledge that his draft status IS affected by his Sugar Bowl performace but someone feels the need to delete that every time I put it. I even had a source to it that time and it was considered a "spam link", yet it was ESPN.com....Either someone properly edit it, or leave it be. Don't delete things for the sake of deleting.
I cleaned up the language AGAIN... I don't know what's going on here, but it sounds like 10 year olds are adding the info. The information itself is good - but when you're writing articles for a work of an informational database, you have to have some more technical writing. Saying things like "had a pretty good season" is pretty poor writing. If you're going to add things to the article, please make an effort to be more proficient. GambitMG Someone put "excellent" season before that, which would not be true at all seeing his recent performance at the Sugar Bowl. Recent polls on ESPN also show he is trailing both JaMarcus Russell and Troy Smith on the question of "Who would you rather draft?". Besides, a statistically impressive season is different from a successful one. What is the point of putting that? He can have great statistics but floundering in the big game is what people remember. I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Trust me. Statistically impressive means nothing. -- 69.139.66.80 05:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC) I actually meant that in terms of technical writing "pretty good" is not an effective way of expressing your point. That is actually more "conversational" speech. In other words, if you and I were sitting at a bar and I asked you how Brady Quinn's season went, you'd probably say, "well, he had a pretty good season". But in terms of a dictionary or encyclopedia entry, we're looking for something a bit more professional, technical and descriptive, which is why I changed it to "statistically impressive". It has no bearing on his draft stock or anything of that nature, I'm talking about the context you are using language in. GambitMG ==Jimmy Clausen SUCKSS!!!!!!
There has been no decision made as to the next Notre Dame QB yet since the season just ended, so why is listed that Clausen is the next QB in the stat box at the bottom? There is no proof stating he will start. He has 2 college freshman QB's ahead of him (Demetrius Jones and Zach Frazer), and Clausen is still in high school yet. I would hardly say he is a shoe-in for the job just yet.
Notre Dame has two, and by two I mean TWO rivals. They are: USC and Michigan. Not Purdue, not Navy, not MSU, not Pitt, and not Penn State. GoIrish24 23:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC) Notre Dame are kind of like the Raiders of College football, everyone marks them down on their calendar, and Notre Dame just sees the next game on the schedule. I agree with you, to an extent. Notre Dame has ONE constant rival in football, and that's USC. Michigan State had a nice rivalry going in the 1960s, such as the game of the century. There's a lot of hate from Purdue, especially with Indiana waning as a football power, but Notre Dame hasn't really reciprocted. Michigan has been more of a good team they schedule, no real personality there. Navy hates Notre Dame, but that series is the most lopsided in recent history. The one that irks me though, is Ohio State. The 2005 Fiesta Bowl was the first time the two schools had played since 1996. How is that a rivalry game? You might as well list Oregon State as a rival. It was simply placed there to denigrate Quinn. I'm removing it. To be honest, I'm in favor of axing the whole segment on rivals. No other QB that I can see has such a section. Chad Henne's ineptitude against Ohio State is not chronicled in such a fashion, Jordan Palmer's record against New Mexico State isn't layed out in this fashion, and Troy Smith's heroics against Michigan aren't layed out like this. DragonFireKai 23:12, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
I edited this and added "TBA", since it sounds better than "unknown", if everyone's okay with this. GoIrish24 23:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Also, Brady's real name is spelled Braden, not Brayden. GoIrish24 23:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Just give me the link I don't care if I'm wrong, I just want to see the spelling. GoIrish24 03:04, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
We need a photo for the top of this article! Please do not move the SI cover from below as it ties with the text there. Anyone willing to part with a personal photo from the playing field? Lmcelhiney 18:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
We HAD a photo on this article... who the hell deleted it?
I just cleaned up the first part of the article, because of the dregs left over from preveious edit swaps. Too much redundancy existed. I recommend removal of the Personal Information section unless it is significantly enhanced. Currently it has only two pieces of information and they exist in other areas of the article (Info Box) , etc.
Larry
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We've had a lot of edit-counter edit in this article regarding the negative side of Quinn's records in rivalry games and bowl games. I would like to propose that we create a balanced paragraph which offers both sides of his ND record without concentrating on the pros or the cons. For example, the team's performance in rivalry and bowl games, plus the marked improvement in performance during 2006. (Also, Quinn's ND records broken.) Overall, this article needs more expansion so that neither positive nor negative records have such a weight. Let's discuss it here if there is interest. Thanks, Larry Lmcelhiney 13:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I listed that he will be drafted in round 1 in his infobox. This isn't debatable and please don't change it. It's an absolute lock that he'll go in the first round. Where he goes shall be determined later.-- MP123 04:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
you need to add the fact that he benched 225lbs 24 times, which is the average for a lineman.
Why did my contribution get deleted? Is that not part of his personal life? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DevireCui ( talk • contribs) 06:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
I didn't delete it because of the lack of a citation. I think anything less than marriage (with the exception being both people are celebrities/public figures) isn't relevant enough to be in the article. A.J. Hawk being married to Quinn's sister? Relevant, because it's a) marriage; and b) interesting trivia. The random girl who happens to be getting boinked by Quinn at the moment? Not relevant. Chris Nelson 06:29, 29 April 2007 (UTC) But she's not really a random girl. They've been together since High School I think and she plays soccer at the University of Miami in Ohio. Oh well. DevireCui 2:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC) She's not a public figure, and she is not anything to him in the eyes of the law. THAT'S the point. Chris Nelson 18:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC) Doctoru2 21:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC)Is she public enough now, after the NFL draft? Quinn was seen kissing her on TV, she sat by his side during the draft and was even mentioned by some NFL members. Additionally, she served as maid in Quinn's sister's wedding (with pictorial proof). No, she's not. Chris Nelson 22:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
When professional photographers at the ESPYs this year took pictures of him with his long time girlfriend - she was captioned as "... with friend." Image #70 under the search heading BRADY QUINN at www.viewimages.com get a ring on her finger - then it becomes worthy of implementation.
Brady Quinn is related to the Assistant Coach of the Kent State Golden Flashes J.D. Lumley. The two are cousins and are extremely close and they continue everyday to either talk by phone or email. 131.123.48.77 05:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
I've taken the liberty of completely revising and rewriting the article complete with sources for every statement that needed to be sourced. Feel free to adjust anything you think needs adjusting. I think the article may just be a Good Article now. We'll see. Wlmaltby3 – talk/ contribs 04:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Brady Quinn "once again finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy balloting" in 2006, but he actually finished third. (Source: http://www.heisman.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120906aaa.html) I am unable to edit this article myself...can someone who has permission do it? ( Blink6 00:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC))
I think that instead of the image here, this image [1], from the same Flickr user, taken at the same event and under the same license; adds more to the article as it is a 'headshot' of Brady Quinn instead of one of his whole body looking the wrong way. I feel that this should replace the image on the Brady Quinn page, but don't know how to upload the image as a replacement.
I have a better picture of Brady that I personally took on August 18, 2007, his preseason debut. How do I allow his wiki entry to use it? Better than the one posted in my opinion.flyte8@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flyte44 ( talk • contribs) 01:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi., i reviewed the article and wanted the nom's feedback before i proceed further. I think the article does not pass the stability test for 2 reasons: 1. The player in question has entered professional career and the information in this wikipage is likely to move into a daughter page related to his "high school and college" career before the end of his first full season. 2. The page has been subject to repeat vandal attacks over the last couple of months. I could could atleast a dozen since May 15. I need these your thoughts on these two comments before i proceed further. -- Kalyan 08:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Based on the above discussion, i am OK with going thru GA for the article:
Please leave a note on my talk page once you address these comments. -- Kalyan 07:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Brady Quinn has not even signed a pro contract yet. His NFL debut may not be until 2008. To acquire a debut a player must have a GP (games played) in a regular season game. If Brady Quinn gets no playing time in 2007 then he does not have a 2007 debut.
The statement, 'Following his career at Notre Dame, Quinn was touted as the "quarterback who helped restore the Irish back to respectability" is referenced with the following story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16462166/ However, after viewing this story, it does not state anyehere that Quinn brought his team back to respectability, nor does it say that Notre Dame had NOT been respectable prior to his arrival. This is a an ungrounded, biased statement that lacks credibility and should be removed from the article. That is certainly not how people describe him, unless they root against Notre Dame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/{[[User:{ 69.138.249.46 ( talk · contribs)|{ 69.138.249.46 ( talk · contribs)]] ([[User talk:{ 69.138.249.46 ( talk · contribs)|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/{ 69.138.249.46 ( talk · contribs)|contribs]] · [ https://tools.wmflabs.org/whois/gateway.py?lookup=true&ip={ 69.138.249.46 ( talk · contribs)
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"Quinn, who won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award given to the nation’s top senior quarterback, finishes his career with 36 Notre Dame records and will be remembered as the quarterback who helped restore the Irish back to respectability."
It might be a little biased (I don't think it really is, it just says he was touted as such), but it is sourced. Phydend 16:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I added a part linking to Derek Anderson, but it goes to the basketball player's page. Can't figure out how to link to the football players page. I tried [[Derek Anderson (football player) | Derek Anderson but that doesn't do anything. Help! NyyDave 15:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is a classic example of recentism, where every single detail of recent events were recorded. They simply aren't necessary to create a biographic encyclopedia article. I've trimmed, and the current article provides the necessary information and context about Quinn. -- ZimZalaBim talk 13:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Brady Quinn will be listed at 6'4" on this article. He measured in at 6'3 3/4" at the NFL Combine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MP123 ( talk • contribs) 03:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC) Married to Erin Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.230.108 ( talk) 00:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Yea...6-4 sounds fine. NyyDave 16:41, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Even though both nfl.com and clevelandbrowns.com list him as 6-3?
199.133.17.88 (
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The added section pertaining to Brady Quinn's alleged "confrontation" with a group of gay men in Columbus is a violation of copyright, as the content was lifted verbatim from the Detroit Free Press article here (not to mention the fact that whomever added it failed to close the REF tag, thus breaking the remainder of the page).
Given that neither the police nor the Cleveland Browns uncovered any evidence that the allegations were true (see follow-up articles here and here, and that the so-called incident has failed to achieve any traction in subsequent news cycles, it strikes me as an insignificant matter not worthy of inclusion in the article, unless Quinn begins exhibiting a pattern of homophobic behavior. I think it's fair to say that it's simply a case that she protests too much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.232.6 ( talk) 17:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
In any event, for copyright reasons alone, I am removing the existing section.
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17:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I understand the copyright reason, but let's not pretend that it was an insignificant matter. If you do a simple Google search, you'll see that the incident was WIDELY reported and the story certainly had traction. When I included the incident, I was also very careful to point out that Quinn denied the allegations, and that the police could not confirm that he had made any homophobic comments. In other words, the incident was presented fairly and without any bias. Deleting it entirely for reasons other than copyright, smacks of censorship (and glaringly so, since ANYONE who knows anything about Quinn is aware of this incident) from a potentially over-eager Quinn-fan/associate. Jonfoerster —Preceding undated comment added 07:15, 18 January 2010 (UTC).
I have re-included the incident and this time I did not violate the copyright rule. The paragraph I included is short, direct and unbiased AND (more importantly) it is backed with three links: two from extremely credible sources (USA Today and EPSN News) and one (from Yahoo) that includes THE ACTUAL 911 CALL so please don't tell me this incident wasn't significant. It was widely reported and I could include twenty credible sources if I wanted to. Jonfoerster
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Can be confirmed on the website of the Lorain County Auditor [2].
Michiganbuckeye ( talk) 02:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
The table of college stats appears to be missing data concerning fumbles. It is impossible to believe that a quarterback could start for 4 years at a major college and never fumble once. I saw him fumble in the 2006 Michigan game. What's the source of those stats? Hanksummers ( talk) 21:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
added freshman stats, all stats appear to match up with those on his und.com official page, but I could not reliable data on fumbling either, perhaps the zeroed columns should be removed from the article altogether. 03:27, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
'Thought to be the future husband of Haley Clark, the girl used to bright lights and a city that never sleeps, Brady Quinn has been forced to recover from his recent season-ending injury alone. While he expected his future wife Haley to nurse him back to health, she recently was charmed by another contender for the "Best of the Midwest." This hard-working, slighty dorky, movie-buff rivaled Brady in his devastating good looks, and far exceeded him in wit and ability to make Haley smile for hours. While Haley will still be cheering on number 10 and the Cleveland Browns as they start fresh this September, she is rumoured to be sitting in the sidelines with this new, irresistable catch. Brady is not upset by this abrupt change. and noblely stated, in true Browns fashion: "There's always next year!"' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.138.8.1 ( talk) 16:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
The section "personal life" is one of the worst "sections" of a wikipedia article I have seen in a while. There are three disconnected sentences strung together with no relation to each other at all. I'm going to move the sentence about what he graduated with under college, where such a sentence would logically belong. Beyond that I'm going to go ahead and delete the other two sentences. Who cares at all that he's the second cousin of the kid on home improvement? That's just incredibly pointless and insignificant information and really even if it could be woven into another section there's just no reason to even mention it. The kid from home improvement isn't noteworthy on his own right and even if he was a celebrity, Quinn being his second cousin is still throwaway information that doesn't have any significance for the subject of the article. If he was an actor and his second cousin got him an audition maybe that would be different, but this whole desire to put in every last insignificant trivial detail into a wikipedia article just makes for really bad articles. That is especially true when it isn't connected to anything else and is a stand alone sentence. The fact that he is dating this other girl could be significant if there was a more developed personal history section, but there isn't. It just makes no sense to have a section with the only sentence being he's dating some girl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdlund ( talk • contribs) 15:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Recently a revert war was on the verge of erupting between myself and Chrisjnelson regarding Quinn's position on the Bronco's depth chart. I am content with the present language, which states (factually) that Quinn began the season (which is to say, participated in the opener against Jacksonville) as the designated third quarterback, behind Tim Tebow. Having said that, it is far too early to make a sweeping declaration that Quinn has lost the backup quarterback position to Tebow. Coach McDaniels has been abundantly clear that the competition is still open and the position of "backup" will vary from week-to-week, depending upon the game plan. Furthermore, as of Friday, September 17, 2010, the official team depth chart still lists Quinn as the #2.
Additionally, to avoid confusion going forward, be aware that the so-called "emergency" QB in the NFL is a designation given only to a player who is not on the team's weekly 45-man active roster. There is no rule preventing a team from keeping three active QBs and using any or all of them at will during the course of a game. — Trowbridge ( talk) 19:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
on Deadliest catch, the captian of the wizard hires someone named Brady quinn to the boat. is it possible that they're the same? 24.8.248.64 ( talk) 01:34, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
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