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Set Album to Class B & Top Importance Megamanic 09:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
How many versions of the song exist? -- Venkatesh 17:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
"...and during the 2003 Invasion of Iraq many counterdemonstrators played the song opposite peace protests, which is a gross misrepresentation of the song itself." Now I happen to agree with this assessment, but it's hardly NPOV. Any way to keep the information but remove the POV? 208.59.171.97 01:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I already have tried. (see edit history) I explained why it is a gross misinterpretation by objectively (I think) analyzing the lyrics. War counterdemonstrators would be jusified in adopting the song if Springsteen had mentioned anything negative about Vietnam protests in (or maybe outside) his song. -- Cjackb 00:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
The song is about a vietnam vet who got screwed over by his country. What's not to get?
-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 ( talk) 05:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
What's not to get is Springsteen's surprise that people heard the hook and ignored the message. He manipulated the audience to hear one thing when he "meant" another. And then he told all his hardcore fans and his antiwar friends, "hey, this was a protest song." It was but it was mostly a way to sell records. Maybe I'm being cynical but maybe Bruce was being cynical. 71.234.37.144 ( talk) 01:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)Will in New Haven 71.234.37.144 ( talk) 01:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
When the album came out, I remember some controversy, probably minor, which erupted because some people thought the cover of the album depicted Bruce urinating on the flag. Anybody remember this? If you have sources and it seems significant enough, it could be added to this article. --Kevin
There are at least 18 outtakes from the Born in the U.S.A. sessions (17 found on Tracks, 1 on The Essential Bruce Springsteen.) Should they be included in this article? 24.0.60.105 ( talk) 08:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
It says on the previous album section "The River" instead of "Nebraska". Therest of the links look ok. I can't find the spot to edit it. Not a big wiki editor here. So, can someone else do it. Thnx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.233.154 ( talk) 04:19, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Someone needs to investigate the claim that this is the first CD in the USA. I am fairly certain it was Thriller. I have one friend who actually still has the family SONY cdp101 player - a big deal when I was a kid. The comment by him was that "yeah they had the first player and when they got it the only album available was Thriller." I also remember it being in the news - again a big deal for something to be on a CD - a first! Funny I do a search and there are refs all over the net that lead back to wikipedia. This is also hard to believe since Born In The USA wasnt out until mid 84, the Sony cdp101 was out around mid 83 in the US, and Thriller was out Late 82, and if memmory serves me correctly it was a big advertising campaign by Sony for the production of CDs and the CDP101 unit. I am sure it wasnt Born In The USA the time gap alone dictates this.
The above potential correction if correct will have effect on several wikipedia pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.85.238.181 ( talk) 17:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: no move. -- tariqabjotu 03:27, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
– Stats for the song: 31,639 in last 90 days ( 8,481 in August). Stats for the album: 69,888 in last 90 days. ( 19,077 in August). However, numbers for the album may not be very accurate, as other readers may be looking for the song. And I'm not convinced that the hatnote will help a lot. And the album is not "general" enough to be the the broad concept. While there is no single criterion for primary topic, WP:PRIMARYTOPIC says that usage and significance are most-used criteria. Song and album are equally significant, and they may be equally popular. In other words, album numbers do not reflect popularity. Even when WP:DAB might prevent us from improving the encyclopedia, there are still other rules, like WP:NCM and WP:AT. George Ho ( talk) 18:56, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
Piriczki, why are you starting an edit war over this revision to the infobox? ( one revert after I reverted the IP user's unexplained genre change, then a second revert). READ the article please, because you'll find that genre--"rock and roll"--to be cited, to at least two sources:
"According to Roger Scott, [Born in the U.S.A.] was a 'defiantly rock 'n' roll' album, while Rolling Stone's Debby Bull said Springsteen incorporated 'electronic textures' with music he 'kept as its heart all of the American rock & roll from the early Sixties'." And possibly a third: "[Christgau] added that the record's vibrant music 'reminds me like nothing in years that what teenagers loved about rock and roll wasn't that it was catchy or even rhythmic but that it just plain sounded good'."
The Roger Scott sentence is the only explicit reference to a genre description of this album. Dan56 ( talk) 03:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
His definition of "rock and roll" seems fairly broad which highlights the problem with using music writers to define genres—you have to presume to know how that person defines the term. Another problem is that when the reader clicks on the link to " rock and roll," it links to an article about "the first wave of music that originated in the US in the 1950s prior to its development into 'rock music'" and there is no mention of Bruce Springsteen or music of the 1980s in that article. Also, when the reader clicks on the links to the songs that make up this album, none of them are identified as "rock and roll." However, if one goes to the article " rock music" it actually mentions Bruce Springsteen and even this album in particular. Strange, isn't it? Piriczki ( talk) 14:34, 14 March 2016 (UTC)"I'm a rock critic, but I prefer to call the music I've devoted my life to rock and roll. Metal—it's rock and roll. Mbaqanga—it's rock and roll. Leonard Cohen chansons—rock and roll. Disco—rock and roll." -- Robert Christgau
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The result of the move request was: not moved. Per WP:SK#1 SST flyer 06:08, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
– The album was the multi-platinum bestseller, and it has hits in it. The statistics say that the album page is more viewed than the song. However, I still believe that people may also be looking for the song. Also, the title seems too generic, even when it refers to part of Bruce Springsteen's career. Does it primarily refer to the album or the song? Similar to Baby One More Time and Like a Prayer, if moved, statistics may change. This was proposed almost three years ago, but consensus rejected it. What about this time? George Ho ( talk) 21:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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There is a major problem with this page. After editing the recording section to be efficient and better english, I found "==Early configurations==" section below, which goes into greater detail of the same information. Need some opinions, should I combine, or do we delete one?
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There is a major problem with this page. After editing the recording section to be efficient and better english, I found "==Early configurations==" section below, which goes into greater detail of the same information. Need some opinions, should I combine, or do we delete one? Tillywilly17 ( talk) 07:36, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
I just realized his only reference is Brucebase, which has the best Bruce info in the world, but copying another website is definitely wrong I vote to delete this section Tillywilly17 ( talk) 08:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
I totally agree with merging 2 sections and will edit to remove any references that rely on brucebase Tillywilly17 ( talk) 18:02, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
It looks like Early Configurations was copied from Brucebase. It should be deleted. Tillywilly17 ( talk) 05:44, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
As of 8 th of July 2017 the album had sold 29 300 000 examples. At the same date Tunnel of love had sold 8 350 000 examples. Peter Larsson 77 ( talk) 17:42, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Could someone change the certification to diamond? I tried but couldn't do it properly. Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 23:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Say something like 1.7x diamond or diamond (17x platinum) Wolf O'Donnel ( talk) 02:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)