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The record for him should still be 86 wins. OU has filed an appeal and until there is a decision made on that the wins still count.
I would agree, but unless the page got semi-protection over the next month or so while the appeals process works, there would be some yahoo in here every day changing the records. But you're right (Mr. Anaonymous) in that the penalty doesn't kick in until an appeal has been denied. --
WTStoffs20:53, 13 July 2007 (UTC)reply
My editing of the Coach's record was primarily motivated to establish consistency among all the pages referring to the team's record in 2005. Some featured 8-4 and some featured 0-4. If it is indeed true that the wins still count until the appeal has been denied, then the record on all the pages should reflect this.
J. Charles Taylor06:42, 29 October 2007 (UTC)reply
This article states "Stoops, one of 6 children born to Ron Sr. and Evelyn "Dee Dee" Stoops in Youngstown, Ohio." While the
Mike Stoops article says he is "Stoops, one of 10 children born to Ron and Dee Stoops". Are there 6 or 10 children in the family? I haven't found a source for either, so I'm removing it from both articles until one is verified. —Preceding
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Text under "University of Oklahoma" heading looks like it needs some updating regarding career totals etc. Also the contract information towards the bottom of this section is ambiguous, especially the very last paragraph which is unacceptably vague.
I also suggest that the page "Oklahoma football under Bob Stoops" be elimimated, which I will discuss on that particular talk page. That would entail eliminating the reference to it from this page.
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2016 – Even though the bowl game was played in January 2017, it was still the 2016 season. If I remember right, the standard is to list the season they last coached in, so marking 2017 as his last season would be misleading to visitors. His retirement in June 2017 is noted in the article. Corkythehornetfan (ping me)
04:33, 12 June 2017 (UTC)reply
2016 This is standard procedure for how we deal with tenures for college football coaches. We go by the season in question, not the calendar date. And, moreover, I object to the notion of an RFC specifically on just Stoops rather than the set of all coaches who have also ended their tenure at a given school by coaching in a January bowl game.
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04:33, 12 June 2017 (UTC)reply
2016. If you wanted to get really technical you could say he coached from 1999-00 through 2016-17, but that's not how we refer to college football seasons on Wikipedia.
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02:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC)reply
2016 - Summoned by bot. Follow the standard of using the season year not calendar year otherwise its a bit misleading to readers. Also, as
Corkythehornetfan, his June 2017 retirement is clarified in the body to avoid any confusion.
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Yes, it would make more sense to have an RfC about this situation in general. There's nothing that unique about Stoops here. For example,
Rich Rodriguez's last game coached at Michigan was the
2011 Gator Bowl, played on January 1, 2011, but we denote his tenure at Michigan as "2008–2010". I'm sure there are many other examples like this.
Barry Alvarez,
Bo Schembechler, and
Lloyd Carr are others like this.
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MarkH21: Why is this the policy? Stoops is the acting head coach and general manager? The league is operating preparations for its first draft and season. Stoops recently threw out the first pitch at a Texas Rangers game representing the Dallas XFL team. He is the head coach holding staff meetings.[1] Is Freddie Kitchens the head coach of the Cleveland Browns? Why is it allowed to say Head coach 2019 since the 2019 NFL season hasn't yet begun? I am confused on this application. When staffs change in December or January, we don't wait until August to say they have been hired. This spring league is awkward but Stoops has been hired and the mini-camp begins in December. So should it say 2019 and then visible now?
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Jweiss11: Would someone else like to weight in here? I don't want to go against convention, but I do not understand this. We are under 8 months from the first game of the 2020 spring season. That is the same amount of time when a typical NCAA CFB or NFL coaching change would happen.
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