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Not sure yet--the text was on the
heraldry page as its own section. I moved it here because it seems to fit better. I'm making a push to overhaul this article and give it a decent length and depth of content. One goal is to identify the listed blazons and try to get images put in for comparison (or else find equivalent examples for which that information is known. --
EncycloPetey13:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)reply
"Sable, two swords crossed in saltire argent, between four fleurs-de-lis Or, all contained within a bordure purpure"
"Party per fess argent and sable, in chief a falcon close vert, in base a plate charged with a fleur-de-lis vert"
"Party per fess: The chief Argent, charged with five bezants, the centre bezant charged in chief with a Latin cross of the field, on a canton in sinister base of the first, a bucket: The base party per pale Azure and Argent, the dexter side charged with three rings conjoined at their centres in pairle, the sinister side charged with a bend sinister Azure bearing three quatrefoil of the field. Behind the shield a pastoral staff. The shield contained within a cartouche and ensigned with an ecclesiastical hat supporting six tassels on either side of the shield."
The last part about the escutcheon (overall an escutcheon tierced in pale a lion rampant Gules crowned Or, Gules a fess Argent and Or on a bend Gules three allerions Argent) is the central shield in
Austria Hungary, so I removed it from the blazon so the blazon now describes the image shown.
Soon, but not quite yet (depending on your definition of a stub). Personally, I don't go by length, but by the answer to the question "Could anyone contribute significantly by searching the web for more information?" In this case, yes, though I'm hoping to rectify that in the next three to four weeks. --
EncycloPetey13:12, 1 December 2005 (UTC)reply
Pay attention!
Is it just me, or is the first picture on this page sable, a bend or, when it has the caption azure, a bend or? That is an embarrassment.
It's a very dark blue, but still blue. If you've got an older CRT monitor, that's probably why it looks black. --
Carnildo20:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)reply
To me "globally unique" means "exists only once on the whole world", as opposed to "unique just in Germany" or "unique except for France, where there are three dozens". —
Nightstallion(?)08:59, 7 July 2006 (UTC)reply
The French-speaking blazon project has been entirely revised, the creation of blazons is now vectorial. A start guide for newcomers has been created and many new
charges,
ordinaries and surrounding elements have enriched the already existing base, in order to give to the most what is necessary for a simplified creation of free blazons. Thus, don't hesitate to participate, you'll see it's easy and fun to do.
What we particularly need is draftsmen for charges creating. See more details on the welcome page of the project. Amically, the
French-speaking blazon project team.
"of the nth"
I undid the edit by
Denelson83 who reasonably asked, "Aren't each tincture and metal only mentioned by value exactly once in each blazon?" The answer is that the stylistic avoidance of repetition is applied only within each component coat, not to a marshalled coat as a whole. —
Tamfang17:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)reply
Request for assistance
Hi, I happened on the article for
Ansfelden via reading about the composer Bruckner (ain't WP a great time-waster?) and noticed a description of a CoA. I thought I'd have a go at blazoning it for them from the image on the town's website. I'd appreciate it if an expert could cast an eye over it for me. It's on the articles
Discussion page. Replies to me or on the articles talk page. Thanks in advance.
JustJimWillDo (
talk)
07:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Thanks EncycloPetey for that prompt advice. All I've got to do now is get the OP of the CoA to tell how he knows that the bend "represents" two rivers etc. I'd hope that since the Arms were granted only in 1985, there will be a reference. Thanks again.
JustJimWillDo (
talk)
11:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Typo?
In the long description of the Arms of Hungary I noticed what seemed to be a typo:
"in the chief a demi-eagle able displayed addextré of the sun in splendour" since the eagle is not described as black, I assumed able was supposed to be sable. If I am mistaken, by all means, revert!
Fëaluinix (
talk)
13:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)reply
This is somewhat trivial but I was wondering how to describe the heraldry used in Lord of the Rings by Aragorn. Essentially it's black, with a white tree, an arc of seven five-pointed stars over the tree, and a tall helm above the stars. I was thinking something like "Sable a white tree proper below seven mullets argent a helm" - but I'm sure it can be done better. (The "white tree" is an actual tree in Lord of the Rings so it's akin to "oak tree proper")
203.217.150.68 (
talk)
08:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)reply
talking trumpets
At the dawn of heraldry in
Teutonic lands, a knight on making his entrance would be announced to the assembly by a certain series of musical notes, describing his armourials, blown by the
herald. These notes, when heard by the educated hearer of the chivalric order, enabled him at once to mentally reconstruct the coat, thus identifying the entrant.
None of my dictionaries (all much more recent than that edition of the EB) accept a derivation of blazon from German blasen 'to blow a horn'. Funny, I thought I removed that passage already. —
Tamfang (
talk)
08:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)reply
Boiled down the passage and cited the
OED for a proper etymology of blazon. BTW the 1902 Britannica does not support that colorful account of "the educated hearer" identifying a knight by notes blown on a trumpet that describe the knight's emblems. Given the limitations of a
natural trumpet, the whole concept is even more absurd than it seems at first. —
ℜob C.aliasÀLAROB23:45, 10 September 2012 (UTC)reply
caps style
User:Ludger1961 changed Quarterly argent and gules to quarterly Argent and Gules and so on. I'm inclined to simply revert, but let's discuss. In most books I've seen, only the first word of a blazon is capitalized. I believe English grants capitalise all words except grammatical particles (of, and, &c); does anyone prefer to imitate that? —
Tamfang (
talk)
19:09, 10 February 2011 (UTC)reply
Although by no means universal, it is a fairly common practice to capitalize the tinctures to ease reading. This is purely heraldic convention and has nothing to do with common English writing.
o (
talk)
13:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)reply
Forgive me if it's not appropriate to ask questions like this here, but what software was used to render the coats of arms seen on this and related pages? They look very nice.
Squaregear (
talk)
14:11, 25 April 2012 (UTC)reply
No, that's fine - I had somehow missed their previous appearance in the article. I noticed after your undo; thanks for mentioning it here. I thought seeing as a blazon can describe part of an achievement that it was a related topic, but you may know better. —
Hex(❝?!❞)12:19, 30 October 2012 (UTC)reply
The blazon quoted for the Arms of Hungary includes "enté en point Gules a double-headed Eagle proper on a Peninsula Vert ...". But the peninsula is not shown vert. I don't know which is wrong, so I won't try to correct it.
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talk)
08:40, 10 April 2017 (UTC)reply
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