Bionicle 2: Legends of Metru Nui was one of the Media and drama good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the
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The entire section is unsourced, and has some issues with the prose. For example, take the following sentence, "The Toa gathered and used the power of Unity, and sealed Makuta in a prison of crystallized protodermis." This illustrates a wider problem I see with this section: It's a bit too
in-universe for GA standards. What is "the power of Unity?" What is "protodermis?" I can read the latter after some Googling, but these things shouldn't be presented as they are.—
DMCer™20:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)reply
One question: why would a plot summary need sources? If you look at the plot summary for
Titanic, an article that passed GAN, the only citation there was for the last sentence about whether or not a character had died in the end. I understand the need for citations for the protodermis thing, but since I've already adjusted that, the rest in the summary are things that one can see simply by watching the movie.--
TwilightHelryx17:32, 10 February 2010 (UTC)reply
The article meets the manual of style guidelines and wikiproject films guidelines. I can't see any major issues, other than a few minor things that needed to be fixed, which I've already taken care of.
Most of the citations seem to be valid and
reliable, although some of them appear to be a bit sketchy at first glance. There's a few dead links in the citations, including http://www.scifilm.org/reviews/bioniclemetru.html and http://www.variety.com/ac2005_article/VR1117915590?nav=news, so it is impossible to verify the validity of those. Also, the budget listed in the infobox of $5 million does not have a citation, so that cannot be verified. I wouldn't necessarily expect the citation to appear in the infobox, but I would actually expect that to partially summarize info in the article, so I would think a mention of the budget should be mentioned in the production section. As an additional note, it should be mentioned in this review for future reference that the plot summary does not need an explicit citation, per Wikiproject Films style guide -- "Since the film is the primary source and the infobox provides details about the film, citing the film explicitly in the plot summary's section is not necessary." I just thought it would be important to note that here since the previous GA delisting from last May cited lack of citations as one of the reasons for delisting.
Based on the
Wikiproject Films Style Guide, the article appears mostly complete. What is missing is some discussion on themes, or "unifying or dominant ideas and motifs in a film's elements (such as plot, dialogue, photography, and sound) conveying a position or message about life, society, and human nature."
There's only one image in the article. While not a free image, it is an acceptable use for this type of an article.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:
Overall, I think that this article come very close to meeting the
six good article criteria, and it can be listed pending the changes mentioned above. I will leave this review on hold until 3/2/2010, so that the issues can be addressed. Cheers!
WTF? (
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03:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the review. I will get to work on this as soon as I can. My schedule is a little cramped right now so I hope you can bear with me for being a bit slow. Thanks again!--
TwilightHelryx03:30, 23 February 2010 (UTC)reply
This article has been on hold for over a month, the article hasn't even been edited in two weeks. I fail to see how improvements are being made. There are plenty more articles that need reviewing.
RAIN the ONE(Talk)02:53, 23 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Taking over review
Right this has been going on for four months. Nominators should have articles ready for review when then nominate them. The
WP:Good article criteria are straightforward enough that self assessment before nomination can be undertaken. . I have come here following
this note from
Wizardman.
It appears that the nominator has lost interest so I am going to make a determination now.
Prose is mostly sufficient to meet the GA criteria "reasonably well written", although there is still room for improvement. Still some badly written sentences, however.
The film has many scenes taking stock footage from itself. What does this mean?
The film was received with mixed reviews, with some noting the filling in of plot holes from the last movie. Was that the only point mentioned in the reviews?
Plot section overly long and detailed for a 75 minute animation.
Most of the animation was created in Taiwan by a company called CGCG. Where was the rest created, what was the role of the studio that won the awards?
The film was first screened on October 6, 2004, at the El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood, California.. The lead says it was direct to DVD (also that fact{?) is not mentioned in the article body).
Cartoon Network aired the movie for the first time less than two months after its release on December 18, 2004, at 7 p.m. Eastern Time. That is more than two months.
Reception section has more detail on the release history than the reviews. No sales figures or DVD chart figures
Production section has no mention of the budget, although that is in the infobox.
Two awards were won by the studio that created Bionicle 2 at the 27th Annual Telly Awards. Doesn't the studio (ddPR) deserve a name check? Surely their role should be mentioned in the production section?
The article still does not meet the GA criteria, so I shall not be listing it. If you disagree with this decision, please take it to
WP:GAR. Otherwise, I suggest that you ask for a
WP:Peer review to get further input, and when you sure that it fully meets the GA criteria, renominate it at
WP:GAN. ––
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22:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)reply
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