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I'm wondering if we could combine the fact that the song is a tribute to Jay-Z and because of that "examines the complexities of his friendship". To me having the two sentences separated feels odd when they both could easily be combined.
First paragraph is mostly ok but it's written like a narrative. I'd reword some things to make it less like a story (I was told this during the GA review for "
Ultralight Beam"). Remember, we don't need EVERY detail (I gotta keep that in mind for my own articles tbh)
Example: "Toomp flew from New York to Atlanta so he could remake the beat, re-arranging certain notes and crafting a new melody, before flying back to the state." Do we need to know that he flew to Atlanta or just that the beat was remade in Atlanta?
""Big Brother" was produced by Toomp, standing as the sole track on the record not to have production by West." Because of the preceding sentence, this reads like it was written beforehand and tacked on. We can get away with something like "Toomp received full production credit, making "Big Brother" the only track on Graduation not to have production by West."
"He co-wrote the song with Toomp, with West intending it as a tribute to his mentor and fellow rapper
Jay-Z," "He co-wrote the song with Toomp as a tribute to his mentor and fellow rapper
Jay-Z,"
"concept was conceived while West was riding an elevator" "concept was conceived by West during an elevator ride"
swap the "When asked for his opinion on the song" and "In January 2012," sentences
Maybe Jay-Z's reaction to the song should be stated immediately after the tribute part instead of in the next paragraph? The content of this song feels like a double-edged sword in that its lyrics and why it was written basically go hand in hand
"Jay-Z felt rather emotional after listening, while Williams recalled that the rapper realized his influence on the song" there's a much easier way of saying this. Maybe "Jay-Z felt emotional after realizing he was the subject."?
similar to "Good Life", there's an awful lot of "recalling" and "remembering". I'd tone it down and just tell it as is. Stuff like "He later said in July 2013" is totally fine but others like almost the entire "Speaking of his reaction [...] witness the theme" part feels unnecessarily convoluted.
Do commas go after years in American English?—I've been writing Brit articles for so long I basically forgot lol—If so "August 20, 2007 at the" is missing one
"West went on to play" stuff like this can easily just be "West played"
what ever happened with The-Dream remix? Any other info? If not remove it from the lead as to me it's not notable enough for that.
"that the song is covered in through his admiration for Jay-Z" feels superfluous; I'd say remove the whole thing
for Drumming's review, is "which "can't come soon enough"" referring to "Big Brother"? It currently reads like it's referring to the "strained relationship", which makes no sense to me
Is there a reason why "a columnist for The Guardian" isn't specified when in the source the she is specified?
I feel many of these individual reviews can be summarized simply. Giving everyone's opinion about liking the message feels like overkill.
Like the first one, images should not use px per
WP:IMAGESIZE
Why is the concert Rihanna restated here when it's already stated above? Choose one or the other
"the two repeated this routine during West's set at
JAM'N 94.5's annual concert, with them performing the track together in full" "the two performed the full track together during West's set at
JAM'N 94.5's annual concert"
On my screen refs 4 and 10 are both red links, indicating unreliability. I've also never heard of MEAWW and B High TV and they don't strike me as reliable; and considering the latter is a YT link I'd try to find something better.
The
about page of Meaww shows it has offices in both India and the US, as well as being an independent company that was founded by two people before going through to an editor-in-chief and managing editor, also there are multiple staff writers if you see the articles. As for the YouTube one, the channel is verified and Toomp is included in the interview. --
K. Peake09:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Lots of |author parameters and a few |first and |last ones. Minor, but keep it consistent.
This is a source added back when Wayback was formatted differently and I don't see the need to change it when it is equally accesible. --
K. Peake09:25, 15 January 2023 (UTC)reply
Why do some websites have locations but others not? (i.e. Guardian and Observer). They're not really necessary
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