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This is Bev Desjarlais's voting record on LGBT issues, as listed by EGALE Canada in 2004:
In other words, Desjarlais has a pro-LGBT record on issues not concerning the definition of marriage. She does not belong in the "LGBT rights opposition" category, C-38 notwithstanding. CJCurrie 03:04, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Maybe you should read the definition of "LGBT rights opposition" on the cat page before you delete stuff. "Some of the individuals and organizations listed below have taken assertive stances on limiting the rights of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) individuals or groups...The individuals and groups listed below...are not identical in their attitudes." Carolynparrishfan 21:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
I've read it, and I don't think the label is appropriate for someone whose record is pro-LGBT apart from the marriage issue. CJCurrie 01:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
As a follow-up comment: I think we should exercise caution in applying this label, and reserve it for those individuals who have shown a consistent opposition to civil rights and equality measures for LGBT persons. BD does not fit into this category, notwithstanding her opposition to C-38.
If we apply the label to everyone who opposes same-sex marriage, the category would have to encompass figures such as John Kerry and Bill Clinton -- a broad enough range to make its utility suspect.
Comments welcome. CJCurrie 03:01, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
LGBT category is a stupid waste of time, it's not encyclopedic and we should not be classifying people like this. -- Cloveious 04:25, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
The main issue in the nomination battle was same-sex marriage.
It has commonly been interpreted by those outside of the riding that same-sex marriage was a big issue here: it was not. Same-sex marriage was not a part of the nomination debate, nor was BD's stance in regards to the issue. Neither of the major contenders in the nomination bid even mention same-sex marriage on their respective websites, though strangely Niki Ashton's section on 'Fairness' is down, for the moment at least. The real, or perhaps official, issue, was Northern Development. Behind closed doors though, there were some party insiders saying Bev had to go, but the majority of voters here did not care. Even after she voted her conscience on the issue in 1999, she still was able to win the elections in 2000 and 2004, despite everyone knowing where she stood on the issue. Let us be realistic: Churchill Riding is a far-flung and sparsely populated region, with small urban communities spread out over a Northern landscape. There is not much of a LGBT community here to speak of, or to speak out for that matter. That does not mean that there are no gay people here, rather there are not that many. So you can see, a person could easily get away with not supporting same-sex marriage here, where as in an urban riding with a larger LGBT community, Bev may have been toasted by a more liberal candidate. Perhaps same-sex marriage was the most well-known aspect of who Bev was, but that does not mean it was the 'main issue' during the debate. No, same-sex marriage, as an issue, was avoided in much the same way that André Boisclair's cocaine use as a cabinet minister in the nineties was in the Quebec party leadership race. In both instances, these non-issues have been made into issues by people outside of the internal process. This is why I disagree with the idea that is was the 'main issue.' Sub-Arctic 14:51, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
CJCurrie made a change, ending Desjarlais' term at 2005. I've reverted it because she continued as MP into the 2006 election, where she ran as the incumbant (and lost). Her term as MP ends, then in 2006 by my reckoning.
She stopped sitting as an NDP MP in 2005, but that did not revoke her MP status. -- Otter Escaping North 15:12, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
This is a matter of some contention, and the answer isn't necessarily clear and apparent.
In early times (ie. the 19C), it was accepted that there were no MPs during electoral cycles. Since the position of an MP has become full-time employment, this has changed somewhat -- office-holders are usually seen as holding their positions through various electoral cycles. However, there is no hard-and-fast rule as to whether they formally hold any title during this period.
I'm willing to "bend" on this point and permit the 2006 date, though I'd appreciate it if someone with a direct insight into the matter could provide clarification. CJCurrie 17:47, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I removed the qualifier that she was "executive" assistant to Greg Thompson from the article. While present in the Mackey piece, it roughly contradicts another source (a recent print copy of Frank) that characterized her as a communications assistant. Just about any source would generally outrank Frank, but the very same Mackey piece is provably inaccurate on a much larger point (the assertion that she "lost the riding [after the nomination, so implicitly her seat] to her former party's candidate.")
Anyway, she'll surely be listed here soon enough with full details. :) Samaritan 07:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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