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The Manual of Style indicates that monarch should be styled in the form "Name + Ordinal + of + Kingdom". Berengar's kingdom was Italy and he was the first Berengar (
Berengar of Ivrea was the second). He was Emperor, but the use of the term Holy Roman Emperor is definitely anachornistic, nevertheless it is applied to
Otto I, but not the Carolingians, so it's up for debate.
Consistency: some Italian kings seem to be left under their common names, while some appear properly as per the MoS. I will propose these moves on all pertinent pages for medieval Italian kings (see
Talk:Hugh of Arles and
Talk:Berengar of Ivrea).
A figure should be titled by his most important title in life and I think Berengar would like to be remembered as the Emperor, or at least king of Italy, and not the mere Furlan margrave.
Ahm, the "Holy Roman Emperor" is not something that undisputedly was in existence at the time. Usually we count only Otto I and onwards under that precise title. Charlemagne for example has been left to nicknamed variant due to doubts whether HRE is yet correct.
Marrtel12:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
But Berengar was undisputedly emperor. The question of applying "Holy Roman" retrospectively is rather minor, no? Some scholars do, others don't. There is continuity between Charlemagne's empire and the thing from which Francis II abdicated in 1806. I think the "fact check" notice ought to be removed so as not to give the false impression that he wasn't emperor. I have changed it to say "Emperor of the West," but that's as retrospective as HRE.
Srnec19:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)reply
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The article mentions some times Berengar's "eldest daughter, Bertha" and Berengar's "younger daughter Gisela. In another place, it is also said that a Gisela was Berengar's mother. In the end, it says: "He left no sons, only a daughter (the aforementioned Bertha)". So how many were they: one two or more? --
pma18:12, 1 April 2018 (UTC)reply