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A "chick" movie starring Bette Midler and Barbara Hershey. Contains all the classic things that make up a chick movie. Love lost, jealousy, marriage, children, and a heart wrenching death.—Preceding
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Jamal M (
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04:11, 29 August 2004 (UTC)reply
Why do all cultural references to this film have to be removed. Do some people have nothing better to do than just go around deleting references because THEY find it irrelevant?
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Support per above.
Beaches is a variation of the primary topic
beach, like most (if not all) pluralized terms. That being the case, any non-beach topic called "Beaches" should be considered secondary and disambiguated, including from other secondary topics.
Erik (
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Oppose per
WP:PRIMARYUSAGE. This film is by far the primary topic, indicated by
90% of the pageviews. There's already a hatnote pointing to the only other film with the same title, so no benefit to anyone by moving it. The move of Parasite has resulted in ~39 readers per day being unnecessarily diverted to a dab page from the article they want.
Station1 (
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01:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC)reply
I would have no objection to that. The film gets
more pageviews than
Beach. But I'm not proposing a move, just opposing a totally unnecessary one. The recent RfC confirms that there is consensus that a topic with a parenthetical qualifier can be a primary topic, and the pageviews are convincing in this case, that this film is the clear primary topic between the two films with articles.
Station1 (
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20:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Oppose per
User:Station1. When an English speaker around the world uses the word "beaches" in the plural and the context reveals that they are not talking about actual beaches in the aggregate (the kind made of sand), they are nearly always referring to this iconic film (because Midler's performance makes it so memorable notwithstanding its otherwise mediocre quality). Anyone who disagrees probably didn't grow up listening to the radio--Midler's rendition of
Wind Beneath My Wings was a staple of pop radio stations well into the mid-2000s, and is still played from time to time on oldies stations. Indeed, the very first book returned by Google Books when one searches on the word "beaches" is
the novel on which this film was based. As User:Lugnuts has correctly conceded above, this article should be titled Beaches. I would support a move to that entirely appropriate title. --
Coolcaesar (
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20:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Just thought of an easy way to prove this point.
Search YouTube for "beaches." The first results that come up that are not about actual beaches are either clips from this film (especially the famous scene near the end at the beach house when Midler glances back at Hershey with an alarmed look) or clips of music videos of songs that are often on the same playlists as Wind Beneath My Wings. --
Coolcaesar (
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21:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Google is mixed but returns more results for the landform but Images and Books only returns the landform which is clearly primary if anything by long-term significance, I'd be fine with having no primary topic (by redirecting "Beaches" to
Beach (disambiguation) or making it a separate DAB) but the 1988 film isn't primary per
WP:PLURALPT. Crouch, Swale (
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09:35, 23 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Long-term significance? Most educated native English speakers (unless they were
raised by wolves or live in a shed like
the Unabomber) can immediately respond with "it must have been cold there in my shadow" when prompted by the world-famous notes of the intro of Wind Beneath My Wings. Google Books returns the novel on which the film was based as the very first result. If that's not long-term significance, it's unclear if anything would have long-term significance in your view unless it operates on the
geologic time scale. --
Coolcaesar (
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17:15, 23 December 2020 (UTC)reply
Most educated native English speakers would at least expect a DAB at "Beaches", everyone knows what the landform is while many man not have even heard of the film (I hadn't) and when I put beaches into Google Books all the results are for the landform. Crouch, Swale (
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17:30, 23 December 2020 (UTC)reply
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