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The article that leads here, from "The Balkan War" states that Bulgaria took part in this battle, yet this stub talks about the Greeks. Which is it? —Preceding
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Taear (
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01:58, 23 October 2005 (UTC)reply
And it is good to see some sources proving that Battle of Vevi is "the name most commonly associated with the battle". If there are none - it is just a retronym.--
Мико (
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17:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)reply
To Мико: What you are confusing is the Battle of Sorovich of 1912 against the Turks during the First Balkan War, with the Battle of Vevi of 1941 against the Germans during the Second World War. There is indeed a consensus in WP in using the names that where in use during the dates of the battles that every editor respected. According to this the greek editors accepted f.i. the name of Sorovich for the given battle instead of Vevi, while bulgarian and turk editors accepted the name of Adrianople for the given battle instead of Odrin or Edirne etc. I myself was not aware about it and when I tried to change the name of the battle even in the Greek language in the article, a greek editor -Cplakidas- revert me. I understanded the logic behind that and I left it.
So by imposing the term "battle of Bitola" is a clear break-up from this consensus and especialy from logic, leading WP to a nationalistic battleground landscape and the articles and discussions to the Babel. Since you agree to use the official names during the date of the battles, please say your oppinion also in the battle of Monaster/Bitola discussion page. Regards, --
Factuarius (
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20:03, 11 August 2009 (UTC)reply
I plan to review this article. The Balkan Wars are an interesting, but often neglected, part of European history. Can you add any maps that would be helpful for showing locations described in the article?
Djmaschek (
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23:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC)reply
The article needs a map that allows the reader to understand the movements of the Greek army. Please strongly consider adding the following map to the Battle section: "Macedonia greece.png". The map includes several cities that are important to this article, including Salonika, Gianitsa (Yenidje), Florina, Edessa, Kozani, and Bitola (Monastir).
Done
This map may also help the reader understand the dimensions of pre-Balkan War Greece: "Map_of_Greece_1903.png".
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Djmaschek: I think this map is better suited for the article on the war rather than a specific battle. Other than that I have made corrections to the article as per your comments.--
Catlemur (
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01:31, 28 February 2023 (UTC)reply
Background, paragraph 2: Belgrade and Athens need links.
Done
Background, paragraph 2: with the latter declaring > with the League declaring. (It's better to be specific.)
Done
Background, paragraph 2: while Montenegro had already began military operations on 25 September. (Make this a separate sentence. Also, change "began" to "begun".)
Prelude, paragraph 1, sentence 2: 1st and 2nd Greek Division links need to be here.
Done
Prelude, paragraph 1: began its
assault on Sarandaporo > opened the
Battle of Sarantaporo. (Also, I would use Sarantaporo - with t - in previous sentence and later to avoid confusion.)
Done
Prelude, paragraph 1: Despite being perceived > Despite the position being perceived.
Battle, paragraph 2:
Sotiras, Florina needs a link. I cannot find a link to Lake Petersko. The map says Limni Petron, so maybe Lake Petron would be better to use. There is no link that I can find.
Battle, paragraph 4: This caused the latter > This caused the Ottomans. I think Stena Kleidiou is
Kleidi, Florina.
Fixed. Stena Kleidiou is apparently a pass next to Kleidi also known as Kirli Derven in Turkish. Now the article is far clearer.--
Catlemur (
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03:11, 1 March 2023 (UTC)reply
Battle, paragraph 4: While the Ottomans > The Ottomans.
Done
Battle, paragraph 4, last sentence: pressure to be exalted > pressure to be exerted.
Done
Battle, paragraph 5: had been routed fleeing towards (add comma after routed.)