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Was it indecisive as stated in the text, or a French tactical and strategic victory, as stated in the info box, despite the French losing many more men killed and wounded?
Dabbler18:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)reply
Well spotted. Strategically it was clearly a French victory as D'Estaing had taken the island and Byron failed to dislodge him. Tactically it's a little less clear cut. Byron botched his attack; the French ships were better handled, but D'Estaing failed to take full advantage and cut off the damaged British ships. The French typically lost more men in battles of the period as they tended to fire at the rigging while British ships tended to fire into the hulls (hence killing more men).
JimmyTheOne21:14, 8 November 2005 (UTC)reply
I didn't catch it in the article. I'd add that little comment into the article itself.
Oh, and the "battle" section needs to be reworded to fit encyclopedic prose. "hauled off" and "badly mauled" are two phrases I rarely see in an Encyclopedia :)
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I've just expanded the order of battle for the British fleet, following
William Laird Clowes' statistics. He gives 183 killed and 346 wounded, as does an uncited piece of the existing text. The infobox, citing Castex, gives 1,055 total British casualties which is a big difference. I don't have access to the Castex source but hope someone else might be able to confirm or deny whether that figure is actually stated. Thanks,
Pickersgill-Cunliffe (
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17:12, 31 August 2021 (UTC)reply
I think we need to be careful with Castex as a source - in his book Dictionnaire des batailles navales franco-anglaises it has many battles which doesn't exist and its title is self explanatory. In addition his casualty figures are much exaggerated. An English comparison might as well be Death to the French by Philip Wight.
Eastfarthingan (
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23:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)reply
Are there any other sources that cite British casualties? This isn't my standard period and apart from Clowes I'm unsure where to look, but would like to have at least one more source to push the scales one way or the other on this matter.
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18:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)reply