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The article contains a lot from Bassae when started ... but it will grow. Can you help? Victuallers ( talk) 20:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
Count me in! I could help with making the table. I need the data on the ten orders and 23 representative pics. Good idea Victuallers ( talk) 16:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
OK, it was a three pipe problem, but I think I've matched up the Smith catalogue numbers (which are nearly universally used) and the photographer's numbers in the wikimedia commons gallery. However some are awkwardly cropped and don't always correlate one frame per slab. Smith numbers are on the left;
There are nine conjectured reconstructions tabulated in Cooper and Madigan, The Temple of Apollo Bassitas, p.39 as follows: Ashmolean, Foster, Hahland, BM/Corbett, Dinsmoor, Hofkes-Brukker, Felton, Harrison and Cooper. And a tenth by Carpenter which I think was unpublished or incomplete, I'll have to check later. Twospoonfuls ( ειπέ) 17:56, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Bassae Frieze pictures are in this table. Need to change the Ash, Ash, Ash etc to be the numbers from your page 39? I will also add some alt's. Some fancier ideas of scrolling etc will have to await by discovery of how to do it. Victuallers ( talk) 13:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC) Dinsmoor, Hofkes-Brukker, Felton, Harrison and Cooper.
THe table below shows the various proposals for how the frieze may have been originally designed to be displayed.
Image | Description | Smith | Ashmolean | Foster | Hahland | Dinsmoor | Hofkes-Brukker | Felton | Harrison | Cooper | BM/Corbett |
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Centauromachy | 520 | 21 | 05 | 09 | 01N | 17W | ( ) | 05E | 01N | 01N | |
Centauromachy | 521 | 18 | 09 | 04 | 22W | 15W | 16E | 03N | 02N | 19W | |
Centauromachy | 522 | 16 | 06 | 04 | 19W | 09E | 17E | 06E | 04N | 18W | |
Centauromachy | 523 | 13 | 01 | 03 | 04N | 15W | 12S | 04E | 03N | 04N | |
Centauromachy | 524 | 19 | 02 | 11 | 05E | 11E | 14S | 07E | 10W | 21W | |
Centauromachy | 525 | 17 | 04 | 10 | 21W | 10E | 20E | 01N | 09W | 23W | |
Centauromachy | 526 | 23 | 07 | 02 | 20W | 14S | 18E | 23W | 11W | 17W | |
Centauromachy | 527 | 14 | 10 | 08 | 02N | 08E | 15E | 21W | 06W | 02N | |
Centauromachy | 528 | 15 | 11 | 06 | 03N | 18W | 21E | 22W | 07W | 03N | |
Centauromachy | 529 | 20 | 03 | 07 | 18W | 12S | 19E | 20W | 05W | 20W | |
Centauromachy | 530 | 22 | 08 | 01 | 23W | 13S | 13S | 02N | 08W | 22W | |
part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy | 531 | 03 | 20 | 16 | 16W | 21W | 11W | 15W | 16E | 13S | |
The attack on the Greeks at Troy by Amazons under Penthesilea | 532 | 01 | 12 | 15 | 06E | 04E | 05W | 09E | 22E | 08E | |
The first casualty of the Heraklean Amazonomachy. note - incomplete | 533 | 02 | 13 | 20 | 11E | 06E | 08W | 10E | 18E | 11E | |
part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy | 534 | 08 | 17 | 19 | 07E | 22W | 07W | 16W | 17E | 10E | |
part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy | 535 | 11 | 22 | 18 | 07E | 23W | 09W | 18W | 12W | 16W | |
one Amazon and one Greek. First part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy (see other picture too) | 536 | 06 | 15 | 17 | 10E | 20W | 06W | 11E | 19E | 07E | |
The death of Penthesilea at the hands of Achilles after the attack on the Greeks at Troy by Amazons under Queen Penthesilea (note - incomplete picture) | 537 | 04 | 21 | 22 | 12E | 19W | 03N | 08E | 21E | 09E | |
The attack on the Greeks at Troy by Amazons under Penthesilea | 538 | 12 | 19 | 21 | 08E | 05E | 10W | 17W | 23E | 12E | |
The attack on the Greeks at Troy by Amazons under Penthesilea | 539 | 07 | 14 | 23 | 17W | 07E | 02N | 19W | 20E | 06E | |
part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy | 540 | 05 | 16 | 12 | 13S | 01N | 01N | 12S | 13S | 05E | |
part of the Heraklean Amazonomachy. note - see this picture too | 541 | 09 | 18 | 13 | 14S | 02N | ( ) | 13S | 14S | 14S | |
Heraklean Amazonomachy | 542 | 10 | 23 | 14 | 15S | 03N | 04W | 14S | 15S | 15S |
That is reading it from the northeast corner clockwise. I should add the compass directions too, since the number of slabs per wall is not universally agreed on. Twospoonfuls ( ειπέ) 13:47, 21 June 2010 (UTC) Will do Victuallers ( talk) 13:56, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Add some extra columns. Ummm about the North East West thing. If different authors reckon that the number on each wall are different then don't we need to add the NSW or E to the relevant columns? Victuallers ( talk) 14:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm happy with what youve done. Looks good. My reason for using footnotes was to try and avoid writing "Ashmolean" etc as a column header. I'm using a netbook and the table is too wide to fit on my screen. However this could be done in an explanation paragraph too. We can also make the numbers disappear and just leave "North" if we want to. I'm going to move it to the main page as its now "good enough" but of course (as always) we can improve. Victuallers ( talk) 22:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
This article seems well written, cited and presented. It is illustrated well with high-quality images so I would say a 'start' tag underestimates this page a little. For me, this page meets 'B' criteria at least. No objections if I amend this? Mtaylor848 ( talk) 21:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Not lost interest - just called away to Hoxne Hoard Victuallers ( talk) 12:50, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Removal of frieze to Britain 2A02:C7C:E0AC:3200:7559:B4C0:D429:4228 ( talk) 10:29, 14 September 2023 (UTC)