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Is it to Wikipedia's standards to have obviously anti mining activists as link from this information? There is no clear indication that their editorial standards can be trusted.
this section from Greg Palasts book should be NPOV'd and added to the article
It could be NPOV'd but how can you count on the verifiability of a piece that uses prose like 'digging out the booty'?
This article make clear statements in the section on Pascua Lama about what the mining practises will be, which are in clear conflict with the published positions of both Barrick and the Chilean government. No sources have been referenced to validate the environmental claims against the Pascua Lama mine. Rather than repeating the discussion on this issue, please look at the talk page for Pascua_Lama.
This article has clearly been written from an anti-mining perspective ignoring to gather Barrick's status and the most powerful gold companies and one of the more enviro-cooperative. The information on Pascua Lama is just plain wrong. Someone needs to fix this.
disagreed and no, its poorly written but more or less correct.
I agree with the above comment; the article emphasizes the evil nature of the corporation, without showing any of the beneficial parts. For example, how many employees do they have, how much money has been added to local economies by the mines, and how much taxes do they pay, among many other questions not discussed in the article. As a matter of fact, there are more things left out than are in the article. I do not recommend that the "anti-Barrick" points be removed unless they are out-and-out false, but I do recommend that more information be added so that readers can get an honest impression of the company; something which they can't at this time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.181.33 ( talk) 18:36, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
This article is very poorly written. I think the language is slanted both ways, depending on what part of the article you're reading. Wikipedia should be about verifiable facts, not speculation on legal actions against the company. Mining company legal concerns in third world countries are very difficult to sort out and are often extremely muddy. This article should stick to the known facts about Barrick Gold. Perhaps a page should be made for environmental concerns about the company. A3camero ( talk) 03:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Environmental activists are notorious for their ignorance of the mining process. They are even worse than generalist journalists who never let the facts get in the way of a juicy story. Wikipedia seems to be full of much the same sort of commentator who is only interested in raking up the dirt on mining companies and not telling us anything about their activities or operations. Why, for instance, is the Blanchard episode included when the case was thrown out of court and he apologised? It was all a nonsense from the start and anyone with the remotest knowledge of the gold market could have told you so years ago. Do any of the contributors to this article have the necessary technical background to be able to assess these various accusations and determine whether they are significant? It doesn't look like it. Egoli ( talk) 18:08, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
At least a small reference to
Bre-X?
Ok, I have been monitoring this for more than a year. No progress has been made so I decided to remove all the content that didn't belong here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.41.226.217 ( talk) 07:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
The section on court case settle out of court was removed because it was lacking references —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.41.226.217 ( talk) 01:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
There are a number of notable public figures on Barrick's international advisory board and I would like to add a paragraph between paras. 2 & 3 or between paras. 3 & 4. Open to criticism and suggestion and with no objection I will do so in about a week. JaxPrat 13:13, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
I just came in and edited the paragraph on the exclusion from the norwegian pension fund, just cleaning it up a little and removing what to me seems like irrelevant information. In my honest opinion, lots more work is needed on this article... The environmental impact section sounds like it's been cut-and-pasted from some spokesperson's list of talking points. Ok, just throwing it out there, don't have time to do more now myself, just my two cents... -- Anderssl ( talk) 03:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
I am concerned by what seem to me contradictions in some of your edits. You added a line that suggests by implication the awards are somehow less meritorious because none have come from NGOs, while at the same time editing out reference to the several month gap between Norway's sale of the stock and Norway's announcement of the sale of the stock. Generally your rework of the material seems to weigh heavily in favour of the criticism and sparingly in counter content. There is also considerable use of loaded phrases like "Barrick claims". Are you confident your POV is neutral when you edit this entry? Don'tDoWindows ( talk) 03:17, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
You need to be sure, I think, that you haven't chosen to use the word 'claims' in an effort to cast doubt on the statements. That's not what Wikipedia is for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Words_to_avoid : "While the word "claim" may be used appropriately, it can also be misused to cast doubt on an assertion. Editors should avoid this improper usage and instead choose a neutral alternative.
":Most or all of these awards have been given by other corporations, business associations or government institutions in areas where Barrick does business; none have been handed out by independent NGOs." It should be one or the other, but not both, and cited, I think. Additionally, is it a verifiable fact or your opinion that awards from NGOs are demonstrably more meritorious than awards from corporations, business associations or government institutions? I remain concerned about your NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tDoWindows ( talk • contribs) 22:51, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't agree the company's website as a source is any less reliable than an activist site. However, I agree Wikipedia's standards are better served by deleting the reference to awards than allowing content that you've written with an implicit message, which suggests NPOV issues. Don'tDoWindows ( talk) 02:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
I reverted the following reference that was added by a user with IP 99.199.11.236, which doesn't seem to support the claim about research at Porgera:
Canadian Geotechnical Journal, 2005, Vol 42(2): 327-339, "Self-weight consolidation of mixtures of mine waste rock and tailings" - Author: Wickland, Benjamin E.; Wilson, G W
First of all, the article doesn't mention Barrick. It does mention Porgera and Placer Dome in the Acknowledgements section, but as far as I can see it doesn't mention how these are related to the topic of the article; and is written a year before Barrick took over Placer Dome. If there is something I have missed, please enlighten me, but otherwise this seems to be just an article about a mining technique which may or may not be related to Barrick at all.-- Anderssl ( talk) 17:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
"The historical record of these types of projects in Chile and the companies' real-world ability to meet legal environmental constraints makes the processing of residual-waste a point of contention. The inability or unwillingness of local authorities to stand up to spills and breaches of environmental requirements is well known and another key point of disagreement with opponents to the project.
The recent approval (as of 2000-2009, during the Lagos and Bachelet presidecies [35] ) of many controversial projects such as large mines, dams for power generation, huge salmon farms, forestry, etc. in spite of many legal and environmental concerns, again question the ability or willingness of the Chilean Government to address local communities concerns' when clashing with large corporations and perceived economic benefits [36].
These issues have recently even been criticized by the OECD as major impediments for Chile being able to join the 'elite club' of developed countries[37]."
In my view these additions are irrelevant to the article. They do not address Pascua-Lama or anything about the entry. Previous material has been deleted on these grounds. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don'tDoWindows ( talk • contribs) 00:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Deleted: However controversy is still rampant as to the real environmental impact, as mine exploration has already been linked to a 56 to 70 % depletion in the three glaciers nearest to the mine site. citation needed
A citation was called for almost a year ago... it would seem to me if it is this specific it should also be verified with a source.
It's been several years and nobody has added citations to a couple of lines. Does anyone want to do it or should they be removed?
Joeywonder ( talk) 10:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
"The historical record of these types of projects in Chile and the companies' real-world ability to meet legal environmental constraints makes the processing of residual-waste a point of contention. The inability or unwillingness of local authorities to stand up to spills and breaches of environmental requirements is well known and another key point of disagreement with opponents to the project.
The recent approval (as of 2000-2009, during the Lagos and Bachelet presidecies [1] ) of many controversial projects such as large mines, dams for power generation, huge salmon farms, forestry, etc. in spite of many legal and environmental concerns, again question the ability or willingness of the Chilean Government to address local communities concerns' when clashing with large corporations and perceived economic benefits [2].
These issues have recently even been criticized by the OECD as major impediments for Chile being able to join the 'elite club' of developed countries [3]."
All very interesting context about Chile's economy and political situation, but better suited I think to an entry on Chile's economy or the Bachelet or Lagos presidencies. Does not stirke me as bearing directly on the Pascua-Lama project (except possibly by implication, which raises questions about NPOV.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by WalterMittyBagehotII ( talk • contribs) 10:44, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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He's one of the main investors at BG.-- Ruouester ( talk) 14:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
nevermind Daniellis89 ( talk) 00:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
The material deleted reads like activists are writing the article again which is not what Wikipedia is for. Having followed the links I see nothing that suggests the web sites in question have a reputation (or published standards) for fact-checking and accuracy or a professional structure in place for content checking that meets the accepted measures of verifiability or standing as a reliable source as outlined in Wikipedia:Verifiability I have moved this content here because it appears to clearly fail to meet Wikipedia's verifiability standards and is better tabled for discussion purposes.
"Critics site that this participation in a wildlife refuge is mere greenwash and it is especially insulting as the main demand of the local landowners association is for the resettlement of people away from the mine site to a new area where they can live a subsistence lifestyle.
The Porgera Landowners Association, who own 2.5% of the mine, and the Akali Tange Association, the Porgera-based human rights organization that has been reporting on the abuses near the Porgera Mine since 2003, joined forces in 2008 to become the Porgera Alliance. This coalition traveled to Barrick's Annual General meeting to voice their demands of the company, an have returned every year since.
One of the most well-publicized abuses at the Porgera Mine is the burning of houses near the mine site. Barrick housed police who – based on situation reports from Barrick Gold – burnt down an entire hillside of houses adjacent to their Porgera Mine. Barrick initially denied these allegations, remarking that it was their understanding that 50 temporary shacks were tore down. But, a follow-up Amnesty report, released in January 2010 showed evidence of at least 130 permanent houses burnt down, while villagers were beaten, harassed, and detained.
In Tanzania, there have been two reports confirming lasting negative effects of a toxic spill in Tanzania that occurred last May. The latest report, commissioned by an interfaith committee in Tanzania and written by scientists from Norwegian University if Life Sciences and the University of Dar es Salam, found potential life threatening levels of arsenic around Barrick’s North Mara mine in Tanzania. The study investigated the area around the tailing dam and the site of an accidental spill that occurred on May 9, 2009. Despite that fact that these areas were tested four to seven months after the spill, this study shows that the water remains toxic for human consumption and grazing use. According to Evans Rubara of the Christian Council of Tanzania, "Following the spill in May, 203 people became ill, 43 people died, and 1358 livestock died according to the Ward authorities in North Mara.” Barrick responded to the report criticizing the integrity of the science, to which the authors responded with a detailed defense of their methodology."
And
"The Pascua Lama project is also plagued by a lawsuit by the Diaguita Huascoaltinos Indigenous community against the Chilean state, recently admitted by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights. Their claim states that the government not only violated the Diaguita's Free, Prior, and Informed Consent (FPIC), but they also did not consider comments submitted by their community in the Environmental Assessment Process of the Mine. The claim also states that Barrick's claim to land on and near the Pascua Lama project on the border of Chile and Argentina relies on a series of fraudulent land claims to collectively held- Diaguita Huascoaltinos land. The Diaguita Huascoaltinos also initiated two lawsuits against Barrick in Chile, seeking to slow down and stop Barrick's mining and exploration on their land."
There are no citations in the content that revert to reliable published sources. Above all, there is no attempt to add any content that provides either counterbalance to the claims, or if there is none, confirms the claims. This is basic NPOV and suggests that the content is activist driven, as the discussion page indicates it has been in the past. The sites used as sources more closely match Wikipedia's definition of Questionable sources rather than Reliable sources. The Questionable sources section states "they are generally unsuitable for citing contentious claims about third parties." Activists in my opinion are sincere people generally but I feel very strong Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a platform to advance opinion or agendas. Unless the content can fully meet established Wiki standards for verifiability, reliable sourcing and NPOV I don't feel it should stand.
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I came across this: http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/02/01/papua-new-guinea-serious-abuses-barrick-gold-mine These look like the important bits:
...is Human Rights Watch a reliable source? There are also several other news articles that mention the HRW report. Dracunculus ( talk) 19:38, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi... I took a go at it... The story seems to have received limited pick up by media, so details from credible sources were confined. I researched it as best I could. There were charges made and I assume the court process is underway and ongoing as there is no indication of resolution. WalterMittyBagehotII ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:24, 28 March 2011 (UTC).
It's quite sensitive (horrible for the women affected) and some newspaper reporting was quite salacious... does this seem appropriate? I'd rather opinions than simply post it given the sensitive subject matter.
Early in 2011, Human Rights Watch detailed reports of sexual assaults of local women around the Porgera mine, identifying members of mine security staff as the perpetrators. [1] The report detailed violent beatings and incidents of gang rape. [2] Three men were arrested on charges including rape. [3] Employees were fired, [4] and the company said it would continue to co-operate with the criminal investigation and make changes to security at the mine. [5] In its response the company acknowledged appreciation of the work by Human Rights Watch in documenting facts for investigation. [6]In media interviews Human Rights Watch criticized the company “for not acting sooner” but said it had responded “with appropriate vigour,” [7] while indicating company officials were “genuinely shocked.” [8] WalterMittyBagehotII ( talk)
Knowing the country well, it's likely that the security employees were locals. All in all, pretty normal behavior for tribal opponents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.90.158 ( talk) 13:37, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
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