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You noticed I was starting on the Banzai! list did you? We have a lot of work to do, so I started with the list. Do you have any ideas? : ) –
J U M PG U R U@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia19:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)reply
First, please stop adding the one-shots. Even for a defunct magazine, they are not notable. They weren't removed from SJ just because of size, but because they aren't a notable thing to note, and best summarized in the feature list as has been done with the others. :) Beyond that, what's your source for the list of series, since its longer than ANNs? In doing web searches to look for info, I'm getting a little concerned that Banzai may not be notable enough to support a standalone article after all, but will keep it going for awhile yet. --
AnmaFinotera (
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19:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)reply
I got the source of the series from the German article, a link is by the toolbox. Also, I won't keep adding the one-shots, i just needed a reason for the deletion. –
J U M PG U R U@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia20:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Yeah, it seems that store is the only source we can rely on....when I look up stuff for sources, it comes up with a copied version of Ataru's old section for Banzai!. StrangerAtaru really needs to keep in mind that the article he created is a really, really, important one. –
J U M PG U R U@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia00:46, 8 July 2008 (UTC)reply
There's an active discussion going on there about renaming it and what the category should/shouldn't include. We've been waiting for people to jump in. :) --
hamu♥hamu (
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01:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Well, that's the eternal difficulty. There has to be a division or the category would be out of control, so I fully support separating Japanese comics off, but "manga" is what a huge chunk people, including a lot of otaku, call "that kind" of stuff, regardless of national origin. The word has multiple, ever-changing meanings in English, and isn't used consistently in any one way by a huge majority of people. After all, in Japan it just means "comics" and includes stuff from any country. Using it as a categorization tool simultaneously while using it varying ways in colloquial speech makes for some tough patches. I used to sell a&m for a living and would get annoyed by Tokyopop and when (99% of) customers called non-Japanese stuff "manga"...then I realized that most people just don't give a crap, and they're referring to a type of product they enjoy, not to a national identity. It's nice to know where things come from and have that as a background as you're reading, but in the end they're all comics. :) (Hope you don't take offense -- none is intended!) --
hamu♥hamu (
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02:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)reply
Sourcing n' stuff
Sourcing will be a sinch with the Wayback machine! Now I can find all the old pages, instantly. I was just trying to use the archive template...but it keeps screwing up.... –
J U M PG U R U@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia22:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)reply
To source with the wayback machine, its the same as {{cite web}}, except url should have the original URL, while the wayback machine link goes in the parameter "archiveurl" and the date of the archive (listed on wayback) goes under archivedate. --
AnmaFinotera (
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22:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)reply