Okay, this is the second time I’ve had to do this. Avenger doesn’t have official stats and Void Avesta does not have official rank. Whatever User:Yin lin came up with wasn't removed because of vandalism, it was removed because IT DOES NOT EXIST. -- Ephyon 01:57, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, I have a big question that could probably be answered easily. Is Avenger the one who tainted the Holy Grail, or is Avenger just another servant. It says that Avenger isn't the evil spirit of Angra Mainyu... but it's too much of a coincidence that he participated in the third Holy Grail war and that war is the war where "Angra Mainyu" tainted the holy grail... Are these two entities the same person or different? Mirioki 23:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes, his knives are Noble Phantasms. Any weapon carried or used by a Servant counts as a Noble Phantasm, even if it does not unleash a giant blast a-la-Excalibur. If this were not the case, then Gilgamesh's Gate of Babylon would not be a Noble Phantasm, and neither would any of the weapons that come out of it. While some Servants have weapons that do not have a name (and therefore are not Noble Phantasms, such as Rider's spikes/nails), those that are important enough to have a name are Noble Phantasms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drium ( talk • contribs)
I don't care enough to get in an argument, but you're forgetting that THE KNIVES' DESCRIPTION EXPLICITLY STATES THAT THEY AREN'T NPs. What actually matters regarding NPs is the release of the power they possess, that's what "invoking the true name" means, not actually speaking, just activation of the NP's true power. Do whatever you want, it's not like this article is anywhere near immaculate anyway, but it's still wrong.
And Rider's Mystic Eyes aren't NPs either by the way. -- Ephyon 16:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
There's really no point in going further with this but the previous entry by whateverhisnamewas has no sources whatsoever to back it up. Even the name itself is wrong. Please don't put it back up.
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09:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
These look about right, but someone should try and obtain a status-screen screenshot of either the books or the game itself to confirm Avenger's statistics. A description of what his skills do (Bloodlust, Hate, etc) would be appreciated, too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Drium ( talk • contribs)
There's a problem here. The only clear picture I could find is this one. Does anyone have anything better? Ephyon 11:29, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 18:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi.
Can anyone who can read Japanese please clarify who is listed on this page as the Japanese voice actor for Avenger in Fate/Tiger Colosseum Upper? -- Nerroth ( talk) 19:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)