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Predestination
A Catholic answers article claimed that Augustine did not teach unconditional election, which I see as an outrageous claim, most scholars say he did believe in unconditional election, and Augustine himself stated "That the predestinated are called by some certain calling peculiar to the elect, and that they have been elected before the foundation of the world; not because they were foreknown as men who would believe and would be holy, but in order that by means of that very election of grace they might be such, etc."
https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/15121.htm. That material should atleast be deleted from the comparison table. --
ValtteriLahti12 (
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16:17, 24 March 2022 (UTC)reply
I've looked up various sources on Google Scholar and found varying answers: "Having proposed the doctrine of unconditional election, Augustine never retreated and during his battles with the Pelagians he became more entrenched than ever."
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This Reformed source also says he supported unconditional election
On the other hand,
"Even though scholars agree that Augustine did not positively teach the double predestination of the both the elect and the reprobate..."
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Yeah, I realize that's the Lutheran position, but they are both connected. I think the above sources point to unconditional election = yes and double predestination = no. (
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c) buidhe08:17, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Yes but the text before implied that Augustine held to conditional election, and seems to be derived from the Catholic answers article that went against majority scholarship, though I already changed it
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08:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)reply
Augustine's Platonism Information
There needs to be a section/sub-section talking about Augustine's Platonism. I'm specifically talking about Augustine's view of abstract objects as divine ideas (i.e. divine conceptualism). "While the exact sources of Augustine’s Neoplatonism elude us, source criticism has been able to determine some pervasive features of his thought that are doubtlessly Neoplatonic in origin...The existence of intelligible (Platonic) Forms that are located in the mind of God and work as paradigms of the sensible things (De diversis quaestionibus 46)". Source:
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/augustine/#PhilTradAuguPlat