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Are there any other famous people named Asser? Surely this doesn't need the "Bishop of Sherbourne" disambiguation, does it? Adam Bishop 02:59, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Since I never saw anything restricting editing to administrators, I rated this article for Project Catholicism. If this was wrong, please fix it. Also, if anyone wants to discuss this rating, please discuss here! Thanks JelloSheriffBob 04:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)JelloSheriffBob
Keynes and Lapidge say Alfred's estate was at Dean, Sussex; as far as I can tell this would be West Dean -- see this link. However, West Dean, West Sussex is currently a red link, so this is just a note to keep an eye on that and make sure it links to the right thing eventually. West Dean, West Sussex is linked from West Dean, which is a dab page. Mike Christie (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
From Keynes & Lapidge, Asser says "Cynuit", and they translate it as Countisbury. However, the Wikipedia entry for Battle of Cynuit redirects to Battle of Cannington, and modern Countisbury and modern Cannington are twenty or thirty miles apart -- the former is ten or so miles west of Minehead, on the coast, in Exmoor; the latter is north of Bridgwater, as far as I can tell. This needs to be resolved. Mike Christie (talk) 22:20, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Countisbury and Cannington/Combwich are rather more than 30 miles apart but the latter two are close. Unfortunately there is no evidence to link Cynuit with anywhere though some early spellings of Combwich are somewhat similar. Combwich is not in a valley as might be expected but was an early port at the mouth of the river Parret (north of Bridgwater). Cynuit could also be Kenwith Castle near Bideford. The location problem is unlikely to ever be resolved but a separate page should be used for Cynuit. Adresia 09:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Another note to say that the "John of Asser" name is not mentioned in Keynes and Lapidge so it's going to need another source. Mike Christie (talk) 22:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Keynes and Lapidge refer to a historical miscellany by Byrhtferth that includes sections of Asser's Life; this needs to be identified with a title and fixed in the text. Mike Christie (talk) 19:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
I took out the 'needs infobox' tag; there's so little known about Asser that the infoboxes don't seem appropriate. Mike Christie (talk) 16:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Lakers, could you give some specific places where you think sources are missing? I'm pretty sure everything in the article is sourced. I have used the style where a citation does not appear in a paragraph until the end, if everything from a given paragraph is cited from that one source. I can't find a reference here but I know I've seen that approach used to avoid cluttering every sentence with identical footnotes. Anyway, let me know what you feel is needed. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 11:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
I'll start with the nitpicking. I'm thinking that a fair use image like Image:Asser book.JPG is dubious here. Illustrations are hardly essential, but for decorative purposes an illustrated Ms. is always a reasonable last resort. A minor point. The lead to the article is rather brief and could do with some expansion. I'll have a go at this. There are probably a few wikilinks missing. Hyfaidd ap Bledrig - admitted still a redlink, but presumably someone will write it eventually - caught my eye, and perhaps some others. Nitpicking aside, this seems like a good article to me. I may have more thoughts when I've had a chance to read it aloud (that would get me funny looks in my present location, so it will need to wait). Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
An anon just posted a paragraph about the unreliability of the source. I don't mind adding more about this, but it needs to be sourced. Mike Christie (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
I expanded the bit from Smyth because there is more than one argument that he uses to prove 'Asser' is a fake; whether he can prove 'Byrthferth' is the forger is another matter. That should g in an article on him. Tony S 89.168.126.38 ( talk) 14:33, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, this is an error. The Hebrew word "Asser אשר" (actually pronounced "Asher" in Hebrew) is best translated as "happy, satisfied". It is related to the word "Osher אושר" which means happiness.
I have edited the article accordingly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.68.90 ( talk) 06:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay! Since I wrote my earlier comment ("Asser" is NOT Hebrew for "Blessed"), I did an extensive on-line search. It appears that Osher-Asher indeed means "happiness", with "blessed" being a secondary meaning. Christian translations of Genesis - and we are dealing with the Christian world here - seem to use both meanings of the word. I stand, if not corrected, better-informed. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.68.90 ( talk) 14:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Could the name Asser be from the Viking name "Assar" (one who answers), we all know that the area of St Davids was raided many times during this period, so there must have been some cultural exchanges. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sgdavies ( talk • contribs) 10:20, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
I've left a note with the editor who added this material about Smyth's book, asking for sources. If none are forthcoming I'll move the material here till sources can be found. Mike Christie (talk) 12:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Are we sure about that? The Latin Library has de rebus gesti Aelfredi. — LlywelynII 13:25, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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Nothing about Alfred the Great's dream of a united England? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.71.16.173 ( talk) 20:40, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
Dudley Miles and Mike Christie - I am disappointed in your reversions. By rejecting any mention of the statement in Lewis's's monumental work based on local research, you are denying "modern scholars" the opportunity to investigate whether the statement could have any substance. As you wish. Tony Holkham (Talk) 08:53, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
The part about his name is largely unsourced. Same for the map showing places he visited ( File:Asser map.png). A455bcd9 ( talk) 15:36, 3 December 2022 (UTC)